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stewalex1984

Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 9

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black

Whistle from Engine when cold and other issues - Advice Pls!

Evening all,

Defender is in the dealer today for its second service an of course some warranty issues.

1) excessive driving noise after 1000mile day trip - New rear Differential has been ordered under warranty!

2) Handbrake light flickers on and off when driving, they claim new brake fluid will fix it at a cost of £180.00! Any thoughts, I assumed it would just be the handbrake switch since they have tried to adjust it 4 times already. Park brake still binding after a long motorway run so they still haven't got the adjustment correct!

3) Lamp behind the temp gauge is out, they need to replace the full assembly for the heating controls, over £300 under warranty.

4) Since dreaded 1000mile trip 2 weeks ago, when I drive the car early morning and its cold, I get a Whistle from the engine in first and second gear at about 2000rpm. After about 30 seconds its gone. Any suggestions on what this may be?

Thanks for any advice on item 4 in advance, also if anyone has any experience on item 2 that would also be great.

Stewart

30th Jan 2014 5:11pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

No.4: It could be a couple of things from the airbox lid not sealed correctly to a failing bearing on the accessory belt to the belt itself slipping when cold, to a leaking manifold or a leaking boost hose etc etc.. The only way to be sure is when you first start the Puma have a listen in the engine bay and try and narrow down the area the noise is coming from. Out of curiosity what dealers are you using?

30th Jan 2014 7:50pm

yeldef

Member Since: 06 Feb 2013
Location: belgium
Posts: 26

I,ve got nr 4 aswell, but in 3th and 4th....i'm also interested in a solution

30th Jan 2014 8:04pm

stewalex1984

Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 9

Using Taggarts Glasgow, formerly Shields Landover.

Thanks for the advice, we shall see what the dealer finds tomorrow. Although I suspect I wont see my car for around 1 week with the work required.

I'll post again once I have a report.

Thanks, Stewart

30th Jan 2014 8:13pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

I got mine from Taggarts in Motherwell and although they are a good dealer (Motherwell, at least from my own experience

) they will admit they don't sell that many defenders as they cater more for the other marques. Consider taking it to Morrisons in Stirling if you get no joy this time as they do sell loads of defenders and the workshop will have more experience in repairing and fault finding. JMTW.

30th Jan 2014 8:19pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

£180 to change the brake fluid

,I assume you have checked to make sure its up to the max (don't leave it to the dealer,lol),much lower can result in the light flickering on corners,bumps etc.
If you think it's the switch knock the brake off and just waggle the H/B lever.
If you have ABS it's worth changing the fluid every year or 2,but not at £180 a time. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

30th Jan 2014 8:49pm

martinfiattech

Member Since: 13 Nov 2013
Location: leicester
Posts: 422

If its any help we have a few transits we do at work that have a whistle from cold and so far they all have loose turbos, so all you can hear is the turbo spinning up then once its warm it expands and all is ok. It might be worth checking the 4 13mm nuts / studs connecting the turbo to the cat they may be loose.

31st Jan 2014 8:37pm

timsmug4

Member Since: 28 Jan 2014
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Alpine White

Point 2, how can changing the brake fluid have any affect on the hand brake?! two totally seperate systems unless ive missed sumfing!

1st Feb 2014 12:14pm

jimbob7

Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

/\/\/\ Handbrake warning light doubles as a low brake fluid/general brake fault warning light. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.

1st Feb 2014 3:00pm

timsmug4

Member Since: 28 Jan 2014
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3

Nice 1 jimbob7 didnt know that

Previously owned 1985 90 (2.25 petrol) 1978
s111 LWB (2.25 petrol)

2nd Feb 2014 10:46am

AlexSmith

Member Since: 05 Sep 2013
Location: Arroio do Meio, RS
Posts: 47

2004 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Alpine White

> 4) Since dreaded 1000mile trip 2 weeks ago, when I drive the car early morning and its cold, I get a Whistle from the engine in first and second gear at about 2000rpm. After about 30 seconds its gone. Any suggestions on what this may be?

Got exactly the same symptom. I changed the belt and all bad bearings, but the whistle at 2k/3k rpm remains, only before the engine gets warm and only on cold mornings. By looking into the engine bay and listening carefully, it seems to come from near the turbo. Not sure if it's the turbo itself...

Did you find out where yours come from? 2020: Defender 110 SW 300 Tdi 2004 Alpine White
2013-2017: Defender 110 S 2.4 (Puma) 2008 Stornoway Gray
2002-2005: Defender 90 CSW 300 Tdi Dark Green

26th Jul 2016 5:39pm

yeldef

Member Since: 06 Feb 2013
Location: belgium
Posts: 26

Hello,

for the interested :

the whistle came from a seal on the turbo.

the following did the trick for me.
https://www.nakatanenga.de/fahrzeugtechnik...turbolader

grts

6th Nov 2016 7:31pm

AlexSmith

Member Since: 05 Sep 2013
Location: Arroio do Meio, RS
Posts: 47

What I'll say is pure speculation, but I was wondering: to me, the whistle happens on cold days only. During the summer, I never hear it. It makes a lot of sense to me that it can be a seal problem, considering metal contracts with cold. Also I notice the whistle disappears when the engine gets hot. In the end, I believe I'm having the same issue with the turbo seal. Thank you very much for sharing this. 2020: Defender 110 SW 300 Tdi 2004 Alpine White
2013-2017: Defender 110 S 2.4 (Puma) 2008 Stornoway Gray
2002-2005: Defender 90 CSW 300 Tdi Dark Green

6th Nov 2016 9:08pm

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