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Jonno1968

Member Since: 24 Oct 2013
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 245

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Orkney Grey

Going deeper than 500mm

Just reading a recent post that explained in great "depth" (ha ha) that in a 2.4 puma, you cant go deeper than 500mm which suprised me. I have a RAI which is sealed on the bodywork. But, the question is what else do i need to do. I see all these you tube pics showing water coming over the bonnet, what mods have they done. BTW i have wading blanket over the grill.

18th Jan 2014 8:37am

Cheshire110

Member Since: 26 Jul 2013
Location: Cheshire/London
Posts: 2754

I think the 500mm depth is a sort of 'max definitely safe' limit...

Above that if you're stationary you could run into problems with electric fan, electric throttle etc but if you push a now wave if say you're safe up to the wing air intake at least, I wouldn't take mine any deeper

Certainly you see pumas with footwells full of water keep going, but I wouldn't want to put the throttle underwater for sure!

As a general rule for myself , I try and keep the sills out of the water but I've seen much deeper. Also you'll throw water around the engine bay at depths where the sump is underwater Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.

18th Jan 2014 10:24am

Cheshire110

Member Since: 26 Jul 2013
Location: Cheshire/London
Posts: 2754

See here for some fairly deep wading by a 110 and some other vehicles- puma opens doors to let water out but had no problems...

Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.

18th Jan 2014 10:28am

g-mack

Member Since: 07 Jan 2014
Location: northumberland
Posts: 1967

Re: Going deeper than 500mm

Jonno1968 wrote:
Just reading a recent post that explained in great "depth" (ha ha) that in a 2.4 puma, you cant go deeper than 500mm which suprised me. I have a RAI which is sealed on the bodywork. But, the question is what else do i need to do. I see all these you tube pics showing water coming over the bonnet, what mods have they done. BTW i have wading blanket over the grill.

prepare to be dazzled!!!!!!!!!!!!

puma with water up the windscreen!!

My 109 thread

my youtube channel

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18th Jan 2014 10:59am

g-mack

Member Since: 07 Jan 2014
Location: northumberland
Posts: 1967

just thought i would chuck in this tdi one for your entertainment too!!!
&list=UU4fdjZ6b7-vf1h0X8kDRr_Q&feature=c4-overview My 109 thread

my youtube channel

18th Jan 2014 11:19am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8581

I could not readily find the video of the Royal Marine standing up to drive a Defender through deep sea water from a landing craft.

However there is this one

Personally I try to avoid sea water as much as possible!

Brendan

18th Jan 2014 11:50am

Laurie

Member Since: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Sussex, England
Posts: 2897

2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

The other option.....
http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/en/amphibious

18th Jan 2014 12:03pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

or a unimog

18th Jan 2014 1:02pm

mark_d

Member Since: 07 Sep 2013
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 266

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Bigger wheels and a lift kit would increase the safe wading depth. http://defender90xs.blogspot.co.uk/

18th Jan 2014 1:04pm

Cheshire110

Member Since: 26 Jul 2013
Location: Cheshire/London
Posts: 2754

Re: Going deeper than 500mm

g-mack wrote:
Jonno1968 wrote:
Just reading a recent post that explained in great "depth" (ha ha) that in a 2.4 puma, you cant go deeper than 500mm which suprised me. I have a RAI which is sealed on the bodywork. But, the question is what else do i need to do. I see all these you tube pics showing water coming over the bonnet, what mods have they done. BTW i have wading blanket over the grill.

prepare to be dazzled!!!!!!!!!!!!

puma with water up the windscreen!!

looking at that, although he may have a RAI, it can't be good having a dash full of water with a puma! his heater intake etc were all underwater and seeing the water pouring out from behind the dash makes my skin crawl! Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8.

29th Jan 2014 3:56pm

g-mack

Member Since: 07 Jan 2014
Location: northumberland
Posts: 1967

yep leave that kinda stuff to the pre td5 mob! at least it shows it got through, wonder what issues it caused him afterwards though My 109 thread

my youtube channel

29th Jan 2014 5:28pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

mark_d wrote:
Bigger wheels and a lift kit would increase the safe wading depth.

...or might be worse if they allow vehicle to float or even just reduces weight/traction on underwater surface?

30th Jan 2014 6:00pm

mark_d

Member Since: 07 Sep 2013
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 266

If you go to 38/15.5/15 wheels then it may be an issue, but you could increase wading depth by a couple of inches by going to something like a 265/65R18. Using larger rims means you get a bigger diameter without displacing too much extra air.
A lift will have the opposite effect, reducing buoyancy at any given depth since less of the body will be submerged.
It won't turn the vehicle in to a submarine, but it could give you the ability to go 6 inches deeper before your feet get wet. On the down side, it will restrict the number of car parks you can use. http://defender90xs.blogspot.co.uk/

31st Jan 2014 5:50am

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8026

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

think about extending the breathers for mech components and tank too, plus ECU locations,

engine - bulkhead
ABS - under drivers seat
DPF - under drivers seat

td5 - ECU under seat

pre tdi - less electrical bits to worry about Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

31st Jan 2014 9:32am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/1...escue.html

Last edited by Supacat on 5th Jan 2020 6:45am. Edited 1 time in total

7th Feb 2014 9:15am

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