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adseybear



Member Since: 08 Oct 2009
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Canada 
What to believe...
Another conflicting story, anyway, gives me longer to save up Whistle

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news...017-82403/ 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green - "Betty"
1958 Series IIA 109 Station Wagon - "Randolph" - Awaiting Restoration
2019 Jeep Wrangler JL Rubicon - SOLD
2006 Volvo V70 D5 - Ocean Race Edition, SOLD
2003 VW Passat Estate 1.9TDI - SOLD
2008 BMW 320D M Sport Estate - SOLD
2001 Defender 90 Td5 Hard Top - SOLD
Post #291687 19th Dec 2013 6:20pm
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timbar



Member Since: 30 Jul 2013
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 245

United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
That one was written in 2011 - I think there's a lot of water under the bridge since then? 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
Post #291689 19th Dec 2013 6:22pm
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adseybear



Member Since: 08 Oct 2009
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 260

Canada 
umm oops Embarassed 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green - "Betty"
1958 Series IIA 109 Station Wagon - "Randolph" - Awaiting Restoration
2019 Jeep Wrangler JL Rubicon - SOLD
2006 Volvo V70 D5 - Ocean Race Edition, SOLD
2003 VW Passat Estate 1.9TDI - SOLD
2008 BMW 320D M Sport Estate - SOLD
2001 Defender 90 Td5 Hard Top - SOLD
Post #291695 19th Dec 2013 6:35pm
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Pickles



Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
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Australia 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green
JLR are keeping VERY tight secrecy over ANY "new" Defender information at all aren't they?....I've heard nothing concrete at all...absolutely nothing, but they'll have to say something eventually,...I wonder how long it will be?
Even some of our most friendly, informative, & helpful Dealer friends on here seem to have no idea?
Cheers, Pickles.
Post #291759 19th Dec 2013 9:39pm
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Interlet



Member Since: 10 Oct 2011
Location: Norwich
Posts: 461

United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Some friends of my parents were over the other day, and the bloke is an electronics engineer at JLR, I asked him if he'd seen any new ideas about the replacement, he merely said !yes many" but would not expand one iota on it. 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
Post #291782 19th Dec 2013 10:13pm
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pepekleinhans



Member Since: 12 Jan 2013
Location: Cape Town
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South Africa 
Defender Pick up 2017
Here is something new

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/land-rover...17/1222741

Cheers
Pepe 2005 Discovery 3 HSE
2007 2.4 Puma Defender
1976 series 3 with Ford V6 engine
Post #291892 20th Dec 2013 10:37am
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Josh K



Member Since: 01 Nov 2013
Location: Herefordshire
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Orkney Grey
If thats the case that a new "defender" pick up will be released in 2017 then hopefully we ought to hear something slightly more concrete over the next 12 - 18 months. 2007 (57) Defender 90 (Sold)
Looking for another to replace it.

The road less travelled.... is a muddy one!
Post #291913 20th Dec 2013 12:13pm
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TD5_dan



Member Since: 24 Feb 2012
Location: Essex
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2001 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
Hmm "McGovern admitted to What Car? that any Land Rover pick-up would be a ‘premium’ product and more in the mould of the VW Amarok than more stripped-out utilitarian rivals." Basically crap then as think the market for that sort of vehicle is flooded anyway. It's going to be hard pushed for that to compete with the ford ranger that has the fantastic 3.2 tdci with 6 speed and auto versions already available and more than likely a lot cheaper 2001 TD5 110 County Station Wagon - sold
1970 Series 2A Station Wagon
1970 Series 2A hard top
1960 Series 2
1972 Series 3
Post #292135 21st Dec 2013 9:16am
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Eduardo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Well,

Will be a "new Defender" variant and the article said.
By the way, an VW Amarok here, full equiped, cost less than a Defender 130 (26.000 gbp vs 33.000 GBP), so no high increase in price in my point of view. Th basic Amarok can cost just 17.000 gbp

Cheers! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #292164 21st Dec 2013 11:42am
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jimbob7



Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
Location: uk
Posts: 2055

Awesome, the new plastic,identical,character/history free, designed by VB Defender,I'm so underwhelmed i think I need to go and paint the bathroom Rolling Eyes ! Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #292168 21st Dec 2013 12:21pm
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Romadog



Member Since: 07 Jul 2011
Location: Powys
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I have heard that the Defender will be built abroad with 2.8 TGV engine and auto, but imported back here as a Utiliy chassis vehicle and sold through Special Vehicles for Utiltiy companies to continue to use.
They have been testing 'a vehicle at Eastnor which they are trying to hide, but has been seen to shift uphill quite quickly.
Post #292177 21st Dec 2013 1:58pm
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TD5_dan



Member Since: 24 Feb 2012
Location: Essex
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2001 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
Romadog you might well be right but when you see things like this it says to me land rover is losing its niche market

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/2013/11/6/...ice/48710/

Arguably the 2.8 tgv is a massive step back from the current engine so personally can't see many utility companies jumping to buy them but we shall see. Don't get me wrong I love the Defender but when I read - 'McGovern admitted to What Car? that any Land Rover pick-up would be a ‘premium’ product and more in the mould of the VW Amarok than more stripped-out utilitarian rivals.' I think they have lost the plot and what the land rover is all about. Time will tell though! 2001 TD5 110 County Station Wagon - sold
1970 Series 2A Station Wagon
1970 Series 2A hard top
1960 Series 2
1972 Series 3
Post #292239 21st Dec 2013 5:10pm
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Setok



Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
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Finland 
Agree with the sentiment. 'Premium' to me is a major turnoff of a word, and against the utilitarian ethos of a real Land Rover. The basic mechanic charm is what brought me to a Defender in the first place. It's the opposite of the Victoria Beckham footballer vehicle. How can they continue to completely misunderstand the value of what they have?
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BigWheels



Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
There might be a 2WD "Defender" coming IMO. Freelander & Ewok have 2WD options already.

Interesting McGovern mentioned the VW, when Ranger, L200, Nissan & Toyota all make similar, & all have life style upmarket models. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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RobKeay



Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Yeah land rover are getting it wrong in 2013, 1 billion in the first 6 months.
Post #292325 21st Dec 2013 8:26pm
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