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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
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D.I.Y.clutch change
No lift or ramp so I was thinking the following for an insitu clutch change.
1 Doors off
2 Steering wheel off
3 Seats out
4 Floor out
5 Trestle ladder through cabin and fixed in place
6 Hand winches and rope attached to trestle ladder
7 Start in on the clutch job.
Anyone done anything like this before? I have someone to give me a hand - not the Mrs this time.
Or is it a just payup and let the professionals do it? Whistle
P.S. Still wondering how far I can let the rattle go on for Laughing 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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Lou Sparts



Member Since: 15 Apr 2012
Location: Kent
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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
The only time i had to do clutch work on a Defender (well 90 td actually) was when the clutch fork punched through and needed changing, i decided to take the engine off the gearbox and move it forwards on the engine lift and make enough room to get in the bellhousing to replace it.
This to me seemed like less work and safer to do when working alone.

Dont know how this job looks to do on a Puma but basicly i took of the bonnet removed front bumper front grille panel and radiator to make enough room to bring the engine forwards.The bellhousing bolts were accessible without removing the floor or tunnel and did not need to disconnect engine wiring or fuel pipes.

Managed the whole job single handed except needing a extra pair of hands when getting the engine back on the gearbox.

Let us know how you get on. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Your proposal is how it always used to be done in the days before the gearbox cross-member was bolted in, you had no choice! Not heard of it being done this way on a Puma though, and it would be interesting to hear how you get on.

You might at least want to get a quote for the job, though. With a 4-post lift and gearbox jack it is not a long job and may be less expensive than you think.
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
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I hav'nt decided 100% about whether to go this road or not. I was just working out how it could be tackled and whether my plan of attack was feasible or not. There'll be no D.I.Y job this side of Christmas/ New year owing to work commitments and availability of help.
Getting a quote is a good and sensible idea. I have been trying to get the part no's of the parts used in the warranty replacement from the dealer who did the job.30.000 miles on a warranty replaced clutch does not seem acceptable to me.I'd like to use something more robust than the parts supplied to the dealer by Land Rover. If I get the part no's of those used I can check with the people here as to whether the up to date revised parts were used.
I have tried the Land Rover Customer Service contact on this site but all he could give me was the maindealer's phone number and the Land Rover line that owing to the nature of the part in question,i.e. the clutch they could'nt say what an acceptable service life would be. To me 30.000 miles is'nt acceptable.
Before I even considered getting a quote from the dealer I'd like to know whether the parts they would use this time are the same as the last ones. Hopefully a more robust longer lasting unit would be available now.
Looks like it'll be rattling into the New Year! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #289622 11th Dec 2013 8:37pm
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GUM97



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Stornoway Grey
Why doors off? An engine to TDi for!
"Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948"
Post #289636 11th Dec 2013 9:08pm
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
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More room to get the trestle ladder through. I suppose if the clevis pins were removed from the door stays the doors could be folded against the wings. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #289638 11th Dec 2013 9:11pm
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Lou Sparts



Member Since: 15 Apr 2012
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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
If i was going to drop the box in a DIY situation i would remove the passenger door and the transmission tunnel and cubby box and plate underneath and sling the gearbox from an engine hoist through the passenger door and lower it that way, it,s just too bulky and heavy to take out from underneath without a transmission jack.

To be honest i,d just bite the bullet and pay someone to do it for me. 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Fit a sunroof - then sling the box on a long strop through the hole to lower it.
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adafish



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United Kingdom 1984 Defender 110 300 Tdi DCPU Stornoway Grey
easy option....engine out..Porny and I did job in just under 4hrs, even jet washed the engine whilst it was out... Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..
Post #289670 11th Dec 2013 10:38pm
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spudfan



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Might be easier to take the roof off! Thumbs Up
Getting more complicated than I thought. Rolling with laughter 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
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adafish wrote:
easy option....engine out..Porny and I did job in just under 4hrs, even jet washed the engine whilst it was out...

What milage had the clutch done and how bad was it?
How long did you live with the rattle before changing?
What replacement parts you use?
A site sponsor has a Borg and Beck clutch kit kisted. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #289676 11th Dec 2013 10:51pm
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amondeggs



Member Since: 06 Mar 2011
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Woodcote Green
Did my clutch , flywheel and gearbox on the drive,

I used an engine crane to lower and then lift the gearbox back in

Have a look here

About half way down the first page

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic21153.html. 👍
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2dae



Member Since: 21 Sep 2013
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
Clutch replacement
Hi all I pulled out fender gearbox last weekend not a bad job we did it a home had a vehicle hoist which is a must for this task also a transmission jack on wheels makes life much simpler
If you download a manual cost $15 from the net you will find the method much simpler
We had box out in 2 hours Clucth change 1 hr new box in and running 4hrs all done in a day runs better than new
If gearbox is out you should replace rear output shaft to transfer case and concentric slave cylinder on side of gearbox
If your good with your hands I feel it's better to do it your self at least it's piece of mind to know what's doing under the seat as my fender has a mind of its own
2dae out Thumbs Up
Post #289734 12th Dec 2013 10:08am
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