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Cuthbert

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Up North
Posts: 1535

I'll keep it simple - the new Defender should be built to last and of modular construction - when bits do wear out or technology moves on, they should be easily replaceable/updated. The vehicle might be expensive initially but if you know it will last for say 20 years then residual values will stay high and cost per mile will be reasonable.

It might even qualify for a green/sustainability award if it can be updated to give a long and reliable lifespan in today's disposable/throwaway culture.

As for design - it needs to look like a Land Rover workhorse - not an anonymous aerodynamic blob from the Far East.

23rd Nov 2013 9:57pm

Olli

Member Since: 15 Nov 2013
Location: Rotterdam
Posts: 10

Just put up a few more ass end variations : http://defender15.blogspot.nl/

30th Nov 2013 7:53pm

Olli

Member Since: 15 Nov 2013
Location: Rotterdam
Posts: 10

Just posted some front end concepts: http://defender15.blogspot.nl/

5th Dec 2013 1:12pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

IMHO the deep bumper is what is ruining the front end design so far, it make the front look squashed upwards. The Disco 3 front end is hideously ugly I think, I wouldn't want a Defender to look like that. The Disco 4 is a big improvement though...

The first design with a slimmer bumper would look good. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

6th Dec 2013 9:12am

BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Current Defenders often have massive unsightly bumpers, winches, A bars & lights added.... Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender

6th Dec 2013 11:25pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

Yes but they aren't three feet deep. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

7th Dec 2013 10:46am

SteveG

Member Since: 29 Nov 2011
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 659

You can save your deliberations, the Defender replacement "will not look like the DC100" - Gerry McGovern in this weeks autocar mag.

"The DC100 was a good starting point, but we've moved the design on" " it's much better now"

With confirmation that it will be launched in 2017.

Cheers

Steve

7th Dec 2013 11:47am

BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

So there will be a gap between the current Defender & its "Gerry-fender" replacement. Bah

Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender

7th Dec 2013 1:11pm

chiefstoker

Member Since: 11 Oct 2010
Location: Weston-super-Mud
Posts: 897

i hope its as rugged as an ifor trailer and not all girly and pretty like a range rover - its got to be simplistic to be desirable, otherwise it may have to compete against everything else 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

Beer 'n Sex 'n Chips 'n Gravy

12th Dec 2013 11:01pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3149

^^ I agree, however the Dc100 does not come anywhere close to what you (and I) are thinking, and I can't see McGovern being able to avoid his ultra-modern super-complex design style. The Current crop of LR products look very sci-fi to me. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

13th Dec 2013 8:00am

timbar

Member Since: 30 Jul 2013
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 245

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

chiefstoker wrote:
i hope its as rugged as an ifor trailer and not all girly and pretty like a range rover - its got to be simplistic to be desirable, otherwise it may have to compete against everything else

It's got to be simplistic to appeal to it's current user base, and even with them there's internal competition with various Discos etc.

For those that really need a simplistic then it'll be a hard sell to get them to give up their existing landy I'd have thought, as they could probably keep them going indefinitely (am assuming that's the armed forces and users in less developed spots)? 2009 110 XS Station Wagon

13th Dec 2013 10:13am

Olli

Member Since: 15 Nov 2013
Location: Rotterdam
Posts: 10

Just posted some first sideviews: http://defender15.blogspot.nl/2013/12/sidewinder.html

22nd Dec 2013 12:14pm

Olli

Member Since: 15 Nov 2013
Location: Rotterdam
Posts: 10

side view update: http://defender15.blogspot.nl/

26th Dec 2013 10:40pm

TOMY

Member Since: 23 Apr 2014
Location: No tarmac
Posts: 4

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey

If i were the boss of LAND ROVER, i would just put 2 airbags,a roll cage and a down-sized
engine EURO6 in the current DEFENDER.Nothing else !

23rd Apr 2014 12:28pm

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