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Tom DCab

Member Since: 13 Jun 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 33

Headlights

Hi
i have been thinking about upgrading headlights on my 2003 110.
The existing lights are Wipac Quadoptic. Does anyone know if these are the standard lights or if they are an upgrade? I think the light output could be better.
can anyone advise on what units would provide better performance and would be an easy swap?
Tom

13th Nov 2013 3:59pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

Wipac quadoptic are the standard units. I would recommend wipac crystal with osram nightbreakers as a cheap and effective upgrade

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13th Nov 2013 4:02pm

couplands

Member Since: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Peak District & Cornwall
Posts: 1826

Good thread here might be worth a read...

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic24139.html?highlight=headlamp

cheers

simon

13th Nov 2013 4:16pm

Tom DCab

Member Since: 13 Jun 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 33

Thanks Guys, I am sure the LED's are amazing, but I dont have that sort of budget...unfortunately...
I think it will have to be the Wipac Crystals ones with the Nightbreaker bulbs....

13th Nov 2013 6:05pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

I had wipac crystals and night breakers on my 90 before I got the LEDs, they were a huge improvement over standard. Now have the wipacs on my range rover classic so the difference in night driving between the classic and 90 isn't too much

13th Nov 2013 6:42pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

Just found some bulbs 135/90 watt e marked for European road use .. On piaa website
Are higher wattage allowed now as normal bulbs are 55/60 watt
They would be no good on standard wiring .
But are they for road use in uk ?

13th Nov 2013 7:29pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

The headlight switch can melt and fail even with standard wattage so I would steer clear of these unless you do the relay mod

13th Nov 2013 7:31pm

macduff

Member Since: 04 Nov 2012
Location: NE
Posts: 119

grafty99 wrote:
I had wipac crystals and night breakers on my 90 before I got the LEDs, they were a huge improvement over standard. Now have the wipacs on my range rover classic so the difference in night driving between the classic and 90 isn't too much

I'm not sure the stock LR wiring is upto powering higher wattage bulbs. Though its nothing some relay controlled lamp feeds from the battery couldn't sort. I'm tempted to do this even with the stock wattage bulbs as I'm sure they dim slightly when I run the interior heater fan on 3. oops meant to quote the wattage post , some how I missed 2023 110 P400e

13th Nov 2013 7:38pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

Yes no good on standard switch or wiring
But are they legal ?
Max wattage was 55/60 I thought
But the new hid equipped cars are a lot brighter than you can get with 55/60 watt filament so are there new rules ?

13th Nov 2013 7:41pm

Tom DCab

Member Since: 13 Jun 2013
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 33

The loom is sold by Devon 4x4...

http://www.devon4x4.com/index.php?page=sho...;Itemid=14

I am thinking that this could be a good option...?

13th Nov 2013 7:42pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

The wipac crystals are so much more optically advanced that they would be an improvement over standard even with the original lamps. Changing the lamps to better quality, equal wattage ones (such as the nightbreakers) gives an improvement again

13th Nov 2013 7:44pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

They are brighter when relayed and heavier gauge wiring

13th Nov 2013 7:45pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

^^ that'll do it

although to save the expense the difference a pair of wipac crystals and decent bulbs is so much you wouldn't need to bother with higher wattage bulbs

13th Nov 2013 7:46pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

munch90 wrote:

But are they legal ?
Max wattage was 55/60 I thought

Under Vehicle Lighting Regulations there is no maximum wattage requirement for headlights.

However to be road legal they have to be E marked.

Brendan

13th Nov 2013 7:49pm

munch90

Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: guildford
Posts: 3558

Says e marked for european road use so guess that's ok then

13th Nov 2013 7:56pm

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