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bob neville



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Rear trailing arms replacement - any tips ?
I need to replace the rear trailing arm bushes on the TD5 so at the same time I am going to fit some Foundry 4x4 heavy duty arms - http://foundry4x4.co.uk/index.php?route=pr...duct_id=95

These are thicker than the LR ones so I will be grinding the axle mounts to give some extra movement - the mounts on my TD5 do not have the arc cut out already, does seem hit or miss if it is there or not.

I have a set of Superpro bushes for the front and rear, I will be doing the front trailing arms later.

I have already soaked all the nuts/bolts and cracked them open a bit to make sure they are going to come off and all is OK - the chassis end large nuts could never have been done up to 176nm as they almost fell off Shocked

Plan is to loosen the chassis and axle nuts, chock front wheels and the rear wheel that is not being worked on, jack up and support axle and chassis on axle stands, remove wheel and finally remove the arm. Grind axle end mount and paint.

Fit new bushes and then put the arm back on. Tighten bolts part way, wheel back on and lower vehicle back onto the ground and torque bolts to the correct setting with vehicle on the ground.

Have I missed anything - apart from the swearing when I find the axle has moved and the arm will not go back on Rolling with laughter

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Nidge



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Bob if the axle moves...a big tie down ratchet strap around the axles will pull it back for you .


N.
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bob neville



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Thanks Nidge, got a couple of those Thumbs Up Currently attached to concrete blocks one end and the greenhouse the other, not taking any chances tonight Shocked

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
Post #277223 27th Oct 2013 3:51pm
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bob neville



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First side done, took two hours. Only problem encountered was trying to torque the axle end bolt up as it needs a deep socket and room is tight. Easy answer in the end was to take the rear shock absorber off and that gave enough room. The old nuts were nowhere near the 130 lb ft they should have been Shocked

Hopefully get the second side done Sunday if the rain and wind stops.

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
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Anderzander



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How did you get on with the other side ? And do you have any pics of them fitted that you might share please ?

I'm thinking of putting a pair on mine - just not 100% sure of the colour .....?
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bob neville



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Second side was much the same as the first, just a pain to torque the axle bolt.

Will try and get some pics at the weekend after I get the Exmoor mud off Shocked

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2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
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jst



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when ever i do these i leave the vehicle stood on its wheels, that way you can roll the rear axle to suit alignment. no need to chock anything. Its also much quicker Cheers

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bob neville



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Cheers James Thumbs Up

Having done it the hard way round first time the next time I have to change the bushes I will leave it on the ground as well.

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
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Anderzander



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That's useful to know - I'd have removed the wheel to get to the axle end bolt. I'll give it a try.
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bob neville



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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Undoing the axle end bolt is easy with a breaker bar. I loosened them off whilst the vehicle was on the ground.

If you follow the book, jack up, stands etc you do have a chance the axle will move and then it is a right fiddle to get the axle bolt back in. The first side I did the axle moved by a few mm's and I tightened the chassis end nut to align everything. The final torquing of the bolts is done with the vehicle on the ground.

The fun here is the axle bolt will only go in one way round due to the shock mount. This is with the head of the bolt towards the diff. This means the nut faces the shock mount that stopped the bolt going in that way !

To torque the nut up you need a deep socket, and you have probably guessed by now, the shock mount is in the way. I managed to just get a deep socket on the nut and torqued it correctly. I guess you could try to torque the bolt head and spanner on the nut but the bolts on mine got to a certain point and would shift no further !

So, a lot of the work is done with the vehicle on it's wheels anyway and as James points out, if there are alignment problems it should be easy to move the axle to the correct position with the vehicle on all four wheels.

Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !!
2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold
2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold
2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member
2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days !
Post #287202 2nd Dec 2013 9:37pm
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