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Sparkzter

Member Since: 01 Aug 2013
Location: Central Scotland
Posts: 13

Hmmm,

Yeah, about the a bar, not so sure about keeping it on. May well invalidate any insurance claim right enough.
Bit naughty that many places will sell them though.
Like I said earlier, there are loads of them about round here, bizarre that no one has been pulled up.

22nd Oct 2013 11:05pm

BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

AFAIK only the rubber A bars are legal now. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender

24th Oct 2013 7:10pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Plenty of companies offering bumpers like this - is the collective view that they are not compliant for road use?

25th Oct 2013 8:14am

BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

I was under the impression that integral A bars were legal, as made-for-purpose, i.e. for winch mountings etc. Adding a winch adds credibility....

Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender

25th Oct 2013 11:34pm

x-isle

Member Since: 26 May 2011
Location: Midlands
Posts: 1327

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

I don't think any A-Frame is illegal. The whole nonsense back in the 90s was over the top.

I'm not sure they are illegal but insurance companies can take a frowned look upon them. Craig Rogers

2007 Puma 110 XS
2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux
www.craigrogers.photography

26th Oct 2013 5:56am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

The legislation I looked at was dated 2009 and applied to a "Frontal protection system"

‘frontal protection system’ means a separate structure or structures, such as a bull bar, or a supplementary bumper which, in addition to the original-equipment bumper, is intended to protect the external surface of the vehicle from damage in the event of a collision with an object, with the exception of structures having a mass of less than 0,5 kg, intended to protect only the vehicle’s lights.

I guess asking the supplier if they are type approved as part of this legislation or not deemed covered by it would be interesting.

26th Oct 2013 6:45am

Sparkzter

Member Since: 01 Aug 2013
Location: Central Scotland
Posts: 13

So can anyone confirm if I have to take mine off!?

26th Oct 2013 2:25pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

To be fully compliant, yes. Only the genuine Landrover protection bar is approved for 2007 on Defenders.

There is (IIRC) a loophole if it is part of a winch set up. John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

26th Oct 2013 3:17pm

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