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pj2106

Member Since: 20 Dec 2012
Location: Huntingdon AKA The Shire
Posts: 1500

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

fit some good quality steel cable to the inside of the bonnet and fix to bulkhead or chassis that way if they do get it open and of the hinges they still have 2 good cable to trya nd cut another good way to slow them down 2008 110 2.4 XS Utility (Hagrid)
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14th Oct 2013 8:55pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8581

No bonnet hinges can stop the theft of a bonnet.

What they will do is slow down the thieves!

OK do not fit security bonnet hinges, thief comes along smashes window, release the bonnet to find bonnet secured by a steel cable. OK bonnet does not disappear but you have a smashed window to replace. Apart from the mess of the broken glass, the expense of replacing it, do you claim on your broken glass clause of your insurance policy with the risk of your premiums going up.

Fit security hinges, if would be thief is observant and notice them beforehand, yes he may come tooled up to remove the hinges, but would he wonder if additional security precautions have been taken such as steel cables and move along for easier pickings?

We will never know how many thieves spot security hinges and just move along for easier pickings.

Talking to various independent LR traders, the theft of bonnets seems to be reasonably rare in Scotland, however talking to various English one company replaces an average of 3 bonnets per month.

Cost of repairing window and replacing bonnet replacing them etc can exceed a £1,000. Security hinges cost between £85-155.

brendan

15th Oct 2013 5:33pm

prezzy

Member Since: 04 Jan 2010
Location: Huddersfield
Posts: 126

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

My hinges arrived today

Many thanks Brendan

15th Oct 2013 6:08pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

pjb wrote:
It's actually not that easy to unbolt as by using loctite the inner bit turns as we'll so you cannot just unbolt unless you can actually stop the inner bit spinning inside the hinge

I think they are worth having

Thanks for the explanation - I'm genuinely interested in finding a solution I'd be comfortable with and what you have said is new to me and makes sense. the ones I'd been looking at were these:

rather than:

Are you saying that if you grip either of the two stainless spacers you cannot undo the bolts?

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17th Oct 2013 8:25am

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

yes, and you will get a nice pair of hinges too

17th Oct 2013 8:35am

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8581

Bonnet security hinges will NOT stop the theft of a bonnet.

What it WILL DO is

(a) provide a visible deterrent

(b) slow them down.

The average bonnet thief is a smash and grab type thief who wants to be in and away with the bonnet as quickly as possible.

To slow the thieves down even more you can fill the head of the bolt with silicone or similiar and use a thread lock fluid.

IF a thief is determined to be away with your Defender or parts of it, it is extremely difficult to prevent it. All you can do is use different methods of security and hope that the scumbag moves along to the next vehicle.

Above all else do not let the fear/experience of the scumbags rule/ruin your choice/enjoyment of YOUR vehicle.

As forum members are aware we sell these hinges and we talk to various garages etc. One of the bigger garage says on average they replace 3 stolen bonnets per month. Another one in Scotland says they do not have a problem with bonnets being stolen. Touching wood, to date I have not heard of a bonnet fitted with security hinges being stolen.

So it is up to the individual Defender owner to decide if bonnet hinges are part of their layered security approach.

Brendan

17th Oct 2013 9:12am

pjb

Member Since: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Sunny Oxford
Posts: 1244

Supacat wrote:
pjb wrote:
It's actually not that easy to unbolt as by using loctite the inner bit turns as we'll so you cannot just unbolt unless you can actually stop the inner bit spinning inside the hinge

I think they are worth having

Thanks for the explanation - I'm genuinely interested in finding a solution I'd be comfortable with and what you have said is new to me and makes sense. the ones I'd been looking at were these:

Are you saying that if you grip either of the two stainless spacers you cannot undo the bolts?

I have the ones in the picture & replied from memory - always a bad thing for the over 50's - I was wrong

But still think they act as a deterrent & look 8)

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17th Oct 2013 10:16am

Kenny57

Member Since: 08 Oct 2013
Location: near Skipton
Posts: 8

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Hinges fitted - thanks Brendan - and bolt heads filled...

20th Oct 2013 9:18pm

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