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custom90



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Eventually the EGR will flag faults and turn on the MIL, not so bad if it's stuck closed but will still need sorting. But if it's stuck open then it will need changing ASAP IMO. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #269739 27th Sep 2013 10:41am
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Hi Vinicio,

I'm glad you have sorted !!!!

but.........................

you need a BAS now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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Post #269744 27th Sep 2013 11:53am
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Post #269747 27th Sep 2013 12:24pm
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No, no, no!

BAS Remap always comes first Thumbs Up --
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Post #269769 27th Sep 2013 2:21pm
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vinsell



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
After 600 km once again I have limp mode with no dtc or mil on Sad . I turned off and on the engine and everything is working good again. What is wrong with this engine? If I had money I'll burn my car into the dealer Twisted Evil .
Anyone with the same problem?
Vinicio https://google.com/+VinicioSelleri
Post #272637 9th Oct 2013 6:49pm
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mick



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Yes got a similar issue started in the summer reakon to have it fixed its started again this week I get a flat spot around 2500 rpm Rolling Eyes
Post #272664 9th Oct 2013 8:23pm
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vinsell



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
vinsell wrote:
After 600 km once again I have limp mode with no dtc or mil on Sad . I turned off and on the engine and everything is working good again. What is wrong with this engine? If I had money I'll burn my car into the dealer Twisted Evil .
Anyone with the same problem?
Vinicio


Again I have MIL on and code P2562. I have to return to the dealer Evil or Very Mad


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Post #273266 13th Oct 2013 7:25am
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vinsell



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
Ciao Lorryman,
did You have dtc 2562 too?
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Post #273268 13th Oct 2013 7:27am
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vinsell wrote:
Again I have MIL on and code P2562. I have to return to the dealer Evil or Very Mad
Vinicio


This is "Turbocharger boost control position sensor A circuit"

http://bellautoservices.co.uk/?s=P2562&search=Search --
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Post #273270 13th Oct 2013 7:45am
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vinsell



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Yes I know but could it be related to the wiring (bullettin TB00254)?
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Post #273271 13th Oct 2013 8:05am
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Lorryman100



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vinsell wrote:
Ciao Lorryman,
did You have dtc 2562 too?
Vinicio


No never had that DTC. What is the full DTC code, as P2562 also has 4 sub codes to narrow down the reason for the DTC being logged, P2562-34, -35, -36, -37.

If we look at the first DTC below it would suggest a wiring fault or a modulator issue and as a faulty modulator means a new turbo I would be checking the loom with a decent DMM for resistance values first.

P2562-34 Turbocharger boost control position sensor A circuit - signal high time less than minimum.

Reason for DTC : Turbocharger boost control position sensor A circuit: short circuit to ground, Turbocharger boost control position sensor A circuit: open circuit or a Turbocharger Modulator fault.

HTH.

Post up the full DTC code as that will give more info.
Post #273275 13th Oct 2013 8:32am
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vinsell



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
Thank You Lorryman100, but I'm able to read P2562 only with my Scangouge II. I'm worry because I guess the dealer will want to replace turbocharger Sad . I have to fight. I accept any suggests.

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Post #273337 13th Oct 2013 12:10pm
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vinsell



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
I cleaned turbo's actuator connection with contact cleaner and now I have limp mode permanently Neutral . Do You think that it is an indication of an harness fault?
Vinicio https://google.com/+VinicioSelleri
Post #273394 13th Oct 2013 3:58pm
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Lorryman100



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It could be indicative of a harness fault because you unplugged it and moved the loom to allow you to spray the plug? The only way to really tell would be to hook up a diagnostic tool and do a live data session to see what was happening in real time. The tool would also give you a complete DTC code to investigate further as I would then use my Pico scope on the modulator loom to check for shorts/ outputs etc. Out of curiosity did you check that the MAP sensor was clean, as your EGR is not disabled by software?
Post #273544 13th Oct 2013 9:39pm
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vinsell



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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver
I cleaned the MAP too. What happens to the engine is spot and random loss of boost with loss of power with black smooke and than limp mode.
Vinicio https://google.com/+VinicioSelleri
Post #273573 14th Oct 2013 4:20am
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