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womble



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unidentified underseat object
evening all,everyone ok ?

under the passenger seat in the battery box is a black box with 6 or 7 wires coming out of it,all black, what is it Question
it is riveted together. something to do with alarm or some electronic b Censored s !
96 300tdi def s/w.

anyone know please.
Post #271699 5th Oct 2013 7:48pm
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Pictures are really handy for these kinda of queries...
Post #271707 5th Oct 2013 8:33pm
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Interlet



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
It's the alarm and immobiliser module. Whatever you do, don't chop all of the wires. I did, and had to re-wire both solenoids, and now the alarm does not work at all.

Edit: Otherwise known as the "Spider". 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top

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Post #271709 5th Oct 2013 8:42pm
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womble



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yes i know but its in my mates workshop and have'nt got any on my camera,it does'nt look like an addon but more like something that was fitted in the factory.
it;s about 3 inches square and mounted on the front vertical panel of the n/s seat box.


if it was a td5 i wouldn't be asking this question.i think someone will know.

thanks
Post #271710 5th Oct 2013 8:43pm
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Interlet



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What were you thinking of doing with it? 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
Post #271711 5th Oct 2013 8:44pm
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womble



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hi interlet,thanks.
i was writing my last post while you replied.

too late already cut them all afew days ago.took the entire front floor and seat box out to put a new gearbox in. Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry

please let me know what you had to do in detail,cheers Thumbs Up
Post #271712 5th Oct 2013 8:49pm
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Immobilisation Spider LANDYWATCH

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Post #271714 5th Oct 2013 8:57pm
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Interlet



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alpine White
Oh dear god, you poor soul!

OK, you need to get 2 really long appropriately rated wires, and run them from the ignition barrel, through the hole in the bulkhead in front of the instrument panel to the engine bay.

One cable needs to be connected to the lower-right most spade on the barrel (right as the view from the driver's seat). This cable needs to be for the starter solenoid. It is important you connect it to the right barrel, otherwise you could have the starter on after you need it to.

Obviously, for all these wires, you need to disconnect the existing ones. I chose to pull the starter cable out completely, but I believe the fuel solenoid original is still in place.

The next cable is for the fuel solenoid, which is located on the back of the injector pump. I can take some pictures in the morning if you'd like some.
As for where on the ignition barrel the fuel solenoid goes, I can't remember, but if you want to test it electrically, you'll obviously want it to be live only in the engine running position of the turn of the key.

All these connections are female spades.

Also, I disconnected the red alarm light on the dashboard because it was annoying me, coming on when I'm driving.

Unfortunately, you now don't have a functioning alarm.

Snap. I'll eventually get round to installing an aftermarket one... 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
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womble



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thanks for your help.

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oh bloody hell Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry
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womble



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interlet.i have stopped kicking myself now and i think a couple of pictures might be handy if you don't mind.pm me please. Thumbs Up
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I'll PM you in the morning, when there's some decent daylight! 1998 110 300Tdi White Hard Top
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Yup, definately the spider.

All the wires are the same colour for security, so you don't know whch ones to short out in the event of some scrote trying to steal it.
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i don't know what to say except what robbie coltrane said as the writer of the first english dictionary........................dam . dam dam etc
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With a multi meter its not hard to work out the circuits once stripped down.

The spider is nothing complicated.... IRB
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