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RobKeay



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Why do these threads about the new defender always get people taking the Censored . We will get to the point where anyone with a bit of info to share won't bother.

I for one am really interested in what is coming. If I wasn't just buying a new one in the next few weeks I would have put my deposit down like others have.
Post #265416 10th Sep 2013 9:49pm
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Pickles



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Rob, I'm interested too mate, don't worry, but not too interested.
We haven't even got ours yet, but I tell you what I'd be really unhappy with.....if the new Defender came out next year with a 150KW V6 Diesel, I'd just feel our 90kw Puma was a bit "inadequate"?
Cheers from Aus. Pickles.
Post #265419 10th Sep 2013 10:11pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Yes, but the new Defender with its 150kW engine would still be much more a Eurobox type construction than our historic hand assembled cube with its 90kW Puma....
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Post #265438 11th Sep 2013 12:32am
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Pickles



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Eric..I want the best of both....I want what I've ordered..EXACTLY....but the addition of a 150KW diesel would be good....a bit of extra "grunt" is always ok by me!
Cheers, Pickles.
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Happyoldgit



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I don't think there is too much intent to take the Censored RK it's just that most threads like this are usually, and understandably strong on hearsay and conjecture and very short of hard facts.

Now I know a bloke of unimpeachable integrity who's sister knows someone who has groceries delivered by an old fella who is very friendly with the cousin of someone inside Land Rover [but who obviously needs to remain nameless nudge, nudge, wink wink] who once spoke to a reliable and high up source within the new Defender design team. Now this high up individual says that we are indeed in for something really special in terms of the Defender replacement and that it more than likely run on wheels and have some form of motive power. Specific details will be revealed at an official announcement within the next fifty years. I can't wait!

In the meantime let the postulation continue... Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic.
Post #265568 11th Sep 2013 9:55am
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TheWarden



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
davidwhittaker wrote:
TheWarden wrote:
The instructor I had at Eastnor was very coy on the new Defender.... I got the feeling that they been testing them there already. We did see a new Range Rover being tested.... and that was only 2 weeks ago


You saw a new range rover being tested 2 weeks ago? They've been on sale for 6/7 months now - I did a LR experience in one a fair few months ago?


This one was coming down off the tracks just as we were heading up. It was covered in a lot of rubber "armour" all over the front..... 2013 Aintree Green 110 Station Wagon SX
Post #265575 11th Sep 2013 10:14am
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limbrickh



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RobKeay...I agree about the M42. I was in England in June last year and saw 2 new Range Rovers in disguise on the M40/M42. I was amazed how little effort they were taking to keep things under wraps...save a little camouflage tape. To be honest though, I got a bit excited...I felt like I was watching a piece of history unfolding - it was a big deal for a simple bloke from the back blocks of NZ (I don't get out much).
Post #265578 11th Sep 2013 10:28am
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Pickles



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miserableolgit, I don't think anyone's taking the Censored either, but neither do I think there's a "New" Defender around the corner...3 years I reckon...well 2016 anyway.
Cheers, Pickles.
Post #265581 11th Sep 2013 10:40am
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AndrewS



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Miserableolgit wrote:
Now I know a bloke of unimpeachable integrity who's sister knows someone who has groceries delivered by an old fella who is very friendly with the cousin of someone inside Land Rover [but who obviously needs to remain nameless nudge, nudge, wink wink] who once spoke to a reliable and high up source within the new Defender design team. Now this high up individual says that we are indeed in for something really special in terms of the Defender replacement and that it more than likely run on wheels and have some form of motive power. Specific details will be revealed at an official announcement within the next fifty years....


That the same bloke I know Thumbs Up it is a small world Cool
Post #265692 11th Sep 2013 3:58pm
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myonehere



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2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue
for what it may [or not] be worth:-

I did get this today - when I asked someone in LR:-

"...this years [2014] changes are minor - interior trim- There will be a couple of special editions. Next year
will see Roll Stability Control introduced to meet regs, additional
benefit is electronic traction control so better off road. Nothing much
planned until end of prod in '15. There is no replacement planned....."
Post #267559 17th Sep 2013 10:14pm
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Sockpuppet



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I thought XS already had TC? Maybe that means ABS is being rolled out to all models?
Post #267569 17th Sep 2013 10:41pm
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
My base spec has TC and ABS - they were optional fitments, standard on XS, not sure about County... 2011 110 USW
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Post #267585 18th Sep 2013 7:15am
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SteveG



Member Since: 29 Nov 2011
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2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
As far as I am aware of...

ESC is compulsory for all new vehicles sold in EU from 1st Nov 2014

AEBS and LDW compulsory for all new vehicles sold in EU from 1st Nov 2015

ESC - Electronic Stability Control
AEBS - Advanced Emergency Braking System
LDW - Lane Departure Warning

Cheers

Steve
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wyvern



Member Since: 13 Dec 2009
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
AEBS and LDW compulsory for all new vehicles sold in EU from 1st Nov 2015

AEBS - Advanced Emergency Braking System
LDW - Lane Departure Warning



....Hmm - I can see the issues with LDW on a defender when you manover off the black top onto the mud!!! the warning alarms will go into total shock!!

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Post #267659 18th Sep 2013 11:48am
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Martin
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
Those apply to wholly new vehicles (new type approval), rather than a newly built car.

Bit like why Defenders don't have DRLs.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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