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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10381  
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Buy proper versions from Rakeway, if you must have them.
I ran 35's on beadlock Mach 5's and never had any trouble
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29th Jul 2013 9:09pm |
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| x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327  
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Not sure why they would crack and split unless they where loose.
There is no difference between having a spacer or wheel with an offset giving the same width. The only issue I have with mine is it's another thing on the checklist to check for torque occasionally. It means I have to remove the wheels to check them. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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30th Jul 2013 6:19am |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435 
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I had a set of Bulldog ones fitted before getting some Zu's, if you are going to get some then make sure they are hub-centric, it gives better strength. As with the above post, the bolts on the spacer need checking now and then, I used Threadlock on mine to make sure. They helped with the turning circle a bit, and filled the arches better although you may get more mud/stones up the side of your vehicle.
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30th Jul 2013 6:31am |
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| x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327
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Good point Lambley.
Defo put threadlock on them! Craig Rogers
2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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30th Jul 2013 6:33am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372 
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Why? Do you also threadlock your wheelnuts? |
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30th Jul 2013 7:05am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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Question is why do you need wheel spacers?
As far as I am aware they are banned under MSA regulations so you will not be able to do club level trialling under MSA rules. Turning circle, adjust steering locks first off. Tyres outside wheel arch is illegal. Wider stance, consider different rims. Brendan |
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30th Jul 2013 7:07am |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435
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No, the bolts on the spacers are fixed to the spacers from the inside, they are supposed to be fixed and are not supposed to be removed but can potentially come loose, so a dab of threadlock simply stops the bolts from loosening when the wheel nuts are tightened |
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30th Jul 2013 8:12am |
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| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435
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30th Jul 2013 8:29am |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888  
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None of the commercially available spacers I've looked at have been tested properly either for design or consistency/suitability of materials. The thickness of metal left in some parts of the spacers is marginal, particularly given that when a spacer is fitted it's the only thing holding the wheel onto the hub, effectively isolating the wheel from the hub. When I've challenged suppliers about this in the past they've all fallen back on the "well, they're supplied for off road use, not road use" clause. The materials used are unclear falling simply under the "steel" or "alloy" description.
Spacers in general are used as a bodge to fit the wrong wheels to the vehicle. If you need/want a larger backspace on the wheel then the best and safest solution is to get the correct rims in the first place rather than padding out ones without the correct backspace. IF you do go down the route of fitting spacers then try and find some genuine TUV approved ones. They will come with a certificate of conformity - not a photocopied one as one supplier tried to pass off until I asked to see the original documentation, at which point he admitted he'd just copied one that an ebay seller was giving out ! If you compete in any motor sport events you should need the original certificate to get through scrutineering and I believe there should be a mark on the spacers (although none of the UK suppliers I've talked to could confirm that as none of them were actually TUV approved). The MSA do allow spacers to be used for cross country motor sport but they must be TUV approved. Even if you can't get TUV approved spacers I'd certainly get something in writing from the supplier confirming their suitability and legality for road use, that way you have documented proof if you lose a wheel and it injures or kills someone. There are a lot of things you can bolt onto a Land Rover to "tart it up a bit" but few of them have the potential to cause so much harm to yourself and others if they fail as a wheel spacer. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ |
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30th Jul 2013 9:20am |
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| JR Member Since: 07 Dec 2012 Location: Auchtermuchty Posts: 532  
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Unless MSA rules have changed in the last 10 years then the rules allow for 1inch spacers (MSA hadn't quite got used to metric!) which effectively banned spacers but the reality was that 30mm spacers have been allowed as they are the nearest equivalent to 1inch.
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30th Jul 2013 9:28am |
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| x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327
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...because I wanted to keep the Boost Alloys, but give a wider stance with 265s. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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30th Jul 2013 9:50am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I would beg to differ - there's a world of difference to the load paths of forces acting on and through the wheels/hubs. As said below, why do you want them; consider getting wheels with the appropriate offset first. |
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30th Jul 2013 10:10am |
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| x-isle Member Since: 26 May 2011 Location: Midlands Posts: 1327
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Everyone will have their own view, but if used correctly and the nuts remain torqued up, there should be no issues.
I used to race under MSA rules (albeit circuit racing) and we used spacers quite often to give a wider axle on the back. The only MSA ruling at the time was we had to change the studs so that there was enough thread to be able to correctly/safely torque the nuts. The correct torque ensures that the load is spread against the faces of the wheel, hub and spacer and not the actual nuts and studs. Craig Rogers 2007 Puma 110 XS 2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux www.craigrogers.photography |
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30th Jul 2013 10:28am |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888
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They have indeed changed, they allowed the use of 30mm spacers but now all spacers must be TUV approved. It's also worth saying that 30mm spacers were never allowed, it's just that some scrutineers chose to ignore the regulations - that is not the same thing ! http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ Last edited by davew on 30th Jul 2013 10:53am. Edited 1 time in total |
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30th Jul 2013 10:31am |
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