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Cakey



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Just a bit of background . We used to spray planes with acf-50 . It was embargo at one time Very Happy
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Just a quickie, ACF 50 is very good, but it does leave a greasy, sticky residue, Scottoiler 365 still leaves a slight residue but nowhere near as much as ACF50, dirt and dust certainly doesn't stick to it as readily. You only have one life, live it....forget the cost.
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Cakey



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I agree on the acf 50 , you need to ensure you do not let it drip too much. White spirit gets it off though.
Will have to buy some scotty to try
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I use Scottoiler 365 and ACF-50...

They do seem (to me at least) to have different properties.

Scottoiler 365 seems to have lower lubrication properties, and also less resistance to being washed-off. It's a LOT cheaper, and perfect for spraying liberally into cavity-type areas.

ACF's a great lubricant, and seems to survive better when washed (it doesn;t was off so easily as 365). However it's much more expensive, and it's a sticky surface to it attracts dust.

365's great for putting on a cloth to wipe surfaces, and because it doesn;t hold dust as much, it looks clean longer.

However, I have used Dinitrol products all over my chassis. I use POR-15 for touch-up of black paint areas.

All great products, and all wit different properties for different uses... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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Sonarmender wrote:
Scottoiler 365! A water based anti corrosion fluid. Whistle


We use Fertan which sounds very similar in the marine environment I work in. Fertan's chemical activation actually reactivates when and if it gets wet to prevent rust.

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www.frost.co.uk Click on RUST in the categories section

Try these guy's, the por 15 paint is incredible stuff.
A word of warning, don't get it on your hands, it will take forever to remove.
Once you've opened the tin make sure you reseal air tight, (I used another container) It drys rock hard, and don't get any round lid, you won't be able to remove lid. Embarassed BTDT

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AndyS



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Work seems to be pretty slack at the moment and while the weather is good I feel I should be sorting the underside of the car.

Is there a general order in which to tackle things, back to front, top to bottom sort of thing? I've just had a nose around under the car and the chassis looks to be OK, the drive train is suffering more. So maybe do that first or would that be a mistake with the chassis to do sitting above it?

Thanks.
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Andy, when i Waxoyl i go from inside out, crawl underneath and do the hard bits first, then the underside of the chassi then the outside which you see, then wheel arch inners, front axle and the nrear axle and x-member Thumbs Up CSK Automotive
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Excellent, sounds like a plan. First job is to get down the jet wash and get all those bits I've missed. I've been very careful to wash any mud off the underside but you can see the bits I've missed when crawling around under the car. Must try harder. Very Happy

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I got some rust treatment from dinitrol with the kit I bought, didn't need to use much as I did it on a brand new 110. Its an aerosol spray so easy to apply and does seem to convert the rust into something else, then treat with dinitrol.

Its part of their 'system' so I'd be inclined to go with that as you know it won't affect th entreatment.

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AndyS



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The Dinitrol is on order so it's now a live job (the first big job I'll be doing on the car!).

One last question, I've jet washed the under side and it's all looking decent enough for a starting place but how do I wash out the inside of the chassis? I've taken the rubber bungs out of the front, beneath the bumper, and it's a bit dirty in there but nothing silly. Is there an easy way to put a hose pipe into the chassis and let water flush out the crud? What's the best way to wash it out?

I'm thinking I'd put the hose pipe into the chassis rails at the rear and let water run along it for a time to flush it out, maybe put the back up on ramps to allow the water to run out of the front better?

Advice much appreciated.
Thanks.
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If you've got a jet wash you can usually get a drain cleaning attachment which is good to work through the chassis and have the back jacked up on axle stands to let it drain out better Thumbs Up
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Just remember if you do wash out the chassis leave it for around a three or four days in this good weather to dry out. You dont want to seal water in with the metal.
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Unless you have been wading or doing a lot of off road work then I wouldn't bother. Steve.
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AndyS



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Hello again,

I've started on my mission to rid the underside of rust, I've taken off a few bolt on bits (steps, mudguards) to help with access and was half way through taking the fuel tank cover off and suddenly had a thought. Does the fuel tank cover hold the fuel tank in place or is it just a cover? Would the fuel tank move at all if I removed the stone-chip cover? I filled it up today so it probably weighs 80kg or so, better find out before I go any further!
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