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MartinK



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PM MartinK as he carries kayaks on his Karritek rack.


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Carrying on v bars vs J bars.

Most of the manufactures now recommend that kayaks are carried and stored on their sides as this is the strongest part of the boat. Particularly if it's hot and you've got a plastic boat Very Happy 
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I trust in that photo your kayak isnt still attached to your LR? Laughing
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I trust in that photo your kayak isnt still attached to your LR? Laughing


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camelman wrote:
Carrying on v bars vs J bars.

Most of the manufactures now recommend that kayaks are carried and stored on their sides as this is the strongest part of the boat. Particularly if it's hot and you've got a plastic boat Very Happy


Interesting - my understanding was that the J bars were designed to put several sea kayaks on their sides on the rack in less space than with V bars, as the boats are bananas with the bow and sterns being rasied, and are often wider than a K1. This was prior to the advent of tupperware boats and J bars have become more popular recently with the development of the much wider sit on tops, which dont sit in V's at all.

The weight of the boat against the support is the issue with any boat .. so no matter if you use V or J there will be a point of contact that may crease the boat. I've seen some of polly boats with creases from sitting on storage racks on their sides in clubs.
I actualy think its all down to preferance and boats types. both types of supports are good in their own way and both have pros and cons. V bars keep the boat flat so have less height and less windage, where as J bars may have more contact area with the more rounded hulls and are more secure...

Both are good and both do simmilar jobs - but I have carbon Kevlar & sandwich racing boats which are quite fragile and dont sit on their side, plus the hulls are prone to scratches - the V's are well padded to save damage.

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trailer roller fixed to the back of the roof rack. slide on to thule kayak cradles. the thule bars are bolted onto the roof rack rails.

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Thanks folks

I'm pick up two canoes tonight and will take good old fashioned tie downs then makes mods if required.
Awesome setups you guys have. Love the Mog! love the red landy very much regardless of the boat Smile and lovet the trailer roller idea!

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MartinK wrote:
WarPig wrote:
PM MartinK as he carries kayaks on his Karritek rack.


Cheers, WarPig...yes, here's mine:


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Loading up...

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Ready to go:

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Out on the water (that's MrsK in front):

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Lovely setup
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Here's the karitek loaded up at the weekend for our trip down the Wye Very Happy


 
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Here's the karitek loaded up at the weekend for our trip down the Wye Very Happy

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...... you could at least get matching paddles to go with the boats and wagon!! Laughing Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
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I realise that this thread is a couple of years old but I came across it whilst contemplating how I would carry sea kayaks if I was to fit a full length expedition rack - an idea that I have now shelved. However, as it might be of value to others, this is how I carry my sea kayaks. I use the Thule cradle types. One has the 'easy -on' felt feet on the rear, one doesn't. Initially I wasn't sure how robust the felt feet were - they are - and I would recommend them over the standard rubber ones as they are much easier to load. I also place a piece of karrimat over the rear roof edge and initially slide the kayak onto that. It is a single handed job to load them on (one at a time of course). Unless you are super tall a caravan step is useful to get enough reach to pull them off again.

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