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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6091   
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Not to accuse you of being daft, but the hi-low lever isn't in neutral is it?
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16th Jun 2013 10:02am |
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| miket Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Peak District Posts: 143 |
Nope, unfortunately it wasn't in neutral.
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16th Jun 2013 10:22am |
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| couplands Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: Peak District & Cornwall Posts: 1826 
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Might just be the linkage has come apart, or do you know for sure it hasn't slipped to neutral...?
Just grasping at straws for you.... 
Cheers Simon |
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16th Jun 2013 10:34am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646 
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Happened to me with a 200 tdi but that was a different gearbox and had a problem in the early days due to the mainshaft wearing due to lack of lubrication. As the Puma has a different gearbox this will not be your case. I too would suggest that the transfer lever has shifted knocking you into neutral land. Unlike earlier Defenders the transfer lever can be moved very easily and it does not have to travel far to get into neutral or indeed low range. Any luck, this will be your "problem".
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1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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16th Jun 2013 1:19pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353 
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Adaptor shaft spline failure between main and transfer boxes. Reasonably common problem.
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16th Jun 2013 5:50pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777  
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'Adaptor shaft spline failure between main and transfer boxes. Reasonably common problem'
Can this be checked without major dis-assembly? Keith |
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16th Jun 2013 5:55pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353
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Probably not that easily, I would think it is more a process of elimination.
Perhaps someone on here who's actually had this failure could comment? |
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17th Jun 2013 9:52am |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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Hi Keith
Having suffered the adaptor shaft failure on the 110 DC I can say it is not easily checked. You need to remove the transfer box (at least) to get to the shaft. When mine went it was not a total loss of drive, just the noise of all the spanners being thrown around the transfer/gearbox that was the clue ! The shaft was .... shafted when it came out, all the splines on one end had been ground down to almost nothing. I guess that eventually I would have lost all drive but the horrendous noise of it slowly disintegrating will certainly warn you that there is a problem. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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17th Jun 2013 12:29pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646
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That is what used to happen to the shaft on the 200 tdi. It was put down to lack of lubrication and a modification was made to improve the lubrication. Is the Puma gearbox going to suffer the same problem? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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17th Jun 2013 4:18pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248
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I saw the destroyed shaft when it was removed and it certainly didn't look like lack of lubrication.
Probably the shaft was not up to the job ?? Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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17th Jun 2013 5:17pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1777
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Thanks Bob,
IIRC yours was fairly new when it went west so hopefully rogue units rather than wear and tear that was a feature on the LT77 boxes. Hopefully as I'm on about 85k mines OK - I'm just a bit nervous of drive line 'shunt' knocks and noises! Keith |
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17th Jun 2013 8:42pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248
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About 10K on the clock when it went Keith.
It was like an on/off switch when it went, came home one evening and it was fine then within a mile of leaving home the next morning it went, no warning before at all. Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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17th Jun 2013 8:45pm |
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| miket Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Peak District Posts: 143 |
All fixed now. It was the adaptor shaft - exactly the same as happened to Bob. The gearbox end had worn most of its splines away, as had the part it fits into on the gearbox shaft. Clutch, gearbox and Tbox were all fine and the gear change is less clunky now (surprise, surprise...)
For the record my 110 has only done 34k miles. Mike |
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19th Jun 2013 7:45pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248
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Result
Out of interest, has the vehicle done much offroad work ? Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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19th Jun 2013 7:52pm |
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