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ginjez



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Santorini Black
110 mud flaps
Looking to view a used 110 this week but the rear mud flaps have worn away on the bottom edge. Have I read a post somewhere saying this is a common problem? I've never experienced this on previous 110 ownership.
Post #225903 9th Apr 2013 8:01pm
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geobloke



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Re: 110 mud flaps
ginjez wrote:
Looking to view a used 110 this week but the rear mud flaps have worn away on the bottom edge. Have I read a post somewhere saying this is a common problem? I've never experienced this on previous 110 ownership.


It is a fairly common problem when a 110 is off roaded. Not so much on those that trawl the motorways...

There is a product out there to fix and strengthen the fixing point on the aluminum body panel. I will try and remember where I have seen it...
Post #225904 9th Apr 2013 8:10pm
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the gamekeeper



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England 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Tonga Green
Sounds like its Been heavily loaded at some time and the mud flaps have rubbed on the road surface
Post #225905 9th Apr 2013 8:11pm
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ginjez



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Santorini Black
The flaps look like they've been rubbing on the tyres because of the shape
Post #225908 9th Apr 2013 8:21pm
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Glynparry25



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Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
When you say bottom edge, do you mean the bottom edge of the mount and need the repair/ strengthening bits:

http://www.entreq.de/products-lr-defender/...ngers.html

Or the actual bottom of the rubber flaps? I tow reasonably heavy weight and have never had the flaps reach the floor...... BUT if off-road, when reversing the mud flaps do have a tendency of getting pushed up against the tire and then when pulling off the flap gets lifted against the tire............. it wouldn't take a huge distance for the flap to get worn away.......... But every time it has happened to me I have heard it in the first 500m Confused

*EDIT*- Highlighted the part you need Thumbs Up

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Post #225909 9th Apr 2013 8:23pm
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ginjez



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Santorini Black
Have I read somewhere that when towing at speed a vortex is created between trailer and rear of Defender which pushes the flaps against the tyres or have I just imagined it?
Post #225917 9th Apr 2013 8:32pm
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Green Machine



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Tonga Green
@gingez - yep, absolutely correct. It happens particularly when towing a caravan - the vortex between the back of the Defender and the front of the caravan causes the flaps to get blown in to the rear tyres, and as soon as they make contact at speed they get pulled up into the arch because of the rotation of the tyres. And they stay there until you reverse (or notice). Which, as you can imagine, causes some serious wear. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green
Post #225938 9th Apr 2013 9:08pm
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adafish



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United Kingdom 1984 Defender 110 300 Tdi DCPU Stornoway Grey
yep.......happened to me. Collected J.WSpeaker / Mobilecentres new trailer from Wigan in the Speaker 110. It had only got 500 miles on the clock....Got to Tims, only to see the mudflps with a great big piece missing.... Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..
Post #226048 10th Apr 2013 1:36pm
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Lishlandy



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England 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 X-Tech LE Orkney Grey
adafish wrote:
yep.......happened to me. Collected J.WSpeaker / Mobilecentres new trailer from Wigan in the Speaker 110. It had only got 500 miles on the clock....Got to Tims, only to see the mudflps with a great big piece missing....


dropped a few places in Tim's xmas card list, have we? Rolling with laughter ===================================
Steve
90 xs sw in Stonoway Grey - Sold
110 USW X-TECH
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WarPig



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England 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi USW Bonatti Grey
Green Machine wrote:
@gingez - yep, absolutely correct. It happens particularly when towing a caravan - the vortex between the back of the Defender and the front of the caravan causes the flaps to get blown in to the rear tyres, and as soon as they make contact at speed they get pulled up into the arch because of the rotation of the tyres. And they stay there until you reverse (or notice). Which, as you can imagine, causes some serious wear.


Are there any good ways to prevent this? Perhaps a chain from the bottom of the mudflap to the underneath of the rear crossmember, and just hook the chain up when towing?
Post #226072 10th Apr 2013 4:06pm
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leeds



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The only time I have experienced this is after backing into a snow drift/ mud hole forcing the mud flap into the rear wheels.

It is probably dependent on many factors, however one trick to avoid catching mud flaps on rear wheels is a small baby shackle/Mallon rapide through a hole in bottom of mud flap and tied back via nylon cord onto rear bumperettes.


Brendan
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Re: 110 mud flaps
geobloke wrote:
There is a product out there to fix and strengthen the fixing point on the aluminum body panel. I will try and remember where I have seen it...


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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
That's all I've done with mine, bit of alli angle just a 5 minute job, I put a rivit at the end of the angle piece as well just to keep it in place if the bolt works loose Thumbs Up

Your motor Supacat is cleaner underneath than mine is on the outside Shocked
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
still only got 1,200 miles on the clock...
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Braydog



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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
I recently ripped the rear mudflap bracket right off the car body taking with it a sizable piece of the angle on a trip in the South Australian outback towing my camper trailer. I am still unsure what did it as we were travelling through a range of road conditions but mostly heavily rutted roads and a short section of mud. Managed a bush fix with some oversized washers but will have to get some aluminium angle this week and strengthen both sides I think. Thanks for the photos.
Cheers Sometimes It is better to ask for forgiveness, than to ask for permission.
Post #230330 24th Apr 2013 11:22pm
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