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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319   
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I did a very similar repair on mine to Supacat's, however I bonded the aluminium angle to the panel with a flexible adhesive to ensure that the load was spread over a larger area. Worked like a dream.
Unfortunately the flap on the other side then came off and was lost, at which time I decided that the mudflaps are functionally useless appendages anyway so I took the first one off as well. 40k miles later I wonder why I didn't just take them off in the first place! |
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25th Apr 2013 8:31am |
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| WarPig Member Since: 04 Dec 2009 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1748  
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Ive been running without mine for a few years now, but I need to fit them again as my caravan gets sprayed with dirt without them. I'll use some ali as per supacats post
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25th Apr 2013 9:12am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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After 4 years without mudflaps on the 110 I refitted mine last weekend and the difference in the appearance of the whole truck has changed. I like...
 I am very tempted with the modified front Entreq brackets.
Also last night I spring cleaned the entire chassis and under carriage back to the waxoyl. I could not believe how much dirt came out of those hard to reach places. I am hoping replacing the mud flaps is going to reduce the build up of crud a little. [URL=]  Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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25th Apr 2013 10:19am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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We have these in stock
[URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] Made from stainless but come with two 'isolators' to separate stainless reinforcing brackets from ali wing plus anti seize/corrosion paste. Remember stainless and ali can react and stainless can cold weld itself. Brendan PS Edited to add we also have rear stainless mud flap brackets for a 110 but not powder coated Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Last edited by leeds on 25th Apr 2013 1:37pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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25th Apr 2013 11:17am |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232 
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Geobloke,
Are those spots under your Fairlead? Click image to enlarge Cheers SMB Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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25th Apr 2013 11:38am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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Yes, there are 4 spots and 2 fog lights under the bumper. The problem with the type of bumper I have is that there is nowhere to mount spots and without a roof rack you can't put them up high. So this is my solution. They work very well too. [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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25th Apr 2013 1:41pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319
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You do know that if those spots have their centres 600mm (a metric 2') from the ground or less, then you can only legally use them in fog or falling snow?
Under UK law any light with its centre 600mm or less from the ground is a fog light and can only be used thus, unless it is an original factory fitment on a Euro-type-approved vehicle, in which case it would be illegal under EU law for the UK to prohibit it. |
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25th Apr 2013 2:28pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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I have just been and measured the height of the bumper on our white 90. Standard bumper, factory tyres rims and suspension. I think the centre is 590mm (OK ground was uneven and no one in vehicle)
So it would look like any spots/driving lights etc fitted into a standard bumper/standard suspension etc would just be on border of legality if not below it. If low profile tyres/lowered suspension/mounted under bumper then it looks like they would be illegal. DRL in standard bumper etc. Do DRL come under driving lights/spot height restriction?? Brendan |
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26th Apr 2013 8:40am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319
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Brendan, This is a very grey area, one which makes even towing weights etc look straightforward! As I understand it European law allows factory-fitted DRLs and various other lights (such as the stupendously useless "turning lights") to be fitted within 600mm of the ground, and allows vehicles so fitted to pass EU type approval under either M or N classes. As such, the UK is not allowed to prohibit them. These are of course "autonomous" lights over which the driver has no control. Fog lights can of course also be fitted 600mm or less from the ground. UK law (the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations and the Motor Vehicles (Contruction & Use) Regulations) specifically states that lights fitted with their centres less than 600mm (originally 2') from the ground may only be used in conditions of fog or falling snow, later extended to allow "poor visbility" (such as smoke, not just darkness). So it would certainly not be possible for the CPS to bring a successful prosecution for someone stopped in their M1 type-approved Eurobox with DRLs near the ground, nor if you had an M1 Eurobox which wasn't factory fitted but has subsequently been retro-fitted with the same system that the factory type-approved. However if you fit a completely non-standard sub-600mm light to an M or N vehicle, ie a system which wasn't part of the type approval, or if you fit sub-600mm lights to a non Euro-type approved vehicle, then you *may* run the risk of prosecution, it all rather depends on the wording of the EU directives and the GB Statutes which implement them in this country. I think it is most likely that you are committing an offence if you use them, and as such if you have fitted sub-600mm DRLs there is a risk it will fail an MOT (if you cannot turn them off, technically the car isn't roadworthy). In this part of Dorset the Police will stop cars which have front fog lights on when it isn't foggy, using - quite legitimately - the fog lights as justification, and then give the driver a thorough check (which I think is an excellent policy)! So in summary I believe (but stand to be corrected) that unless your vehicle was type approved with DRLs, fog lights, or turn lights 600mm or less from the ground, then the ONLY lights you can legally use, 600mm or less from the ground are fog lights, which can inly be used in fog, falling snow, or poor visibility. So an aftermarket DRL bumper is probably technically illegal unless used in conjunction with a suspension lift. If my interpretation is correct (and as noted in the past, I am not a lawyer) then a further question is whether it is legal to supply things like DRL bumpers if they cannot legally be used on the road. I don't see why it shouldn't be, since the supplier has no control over the use of the product, the wiring of the lights, or whether the vehicle is used on the road or not. Also, if a DRL bumper was in fact illegal, could it be argued that the vehicle is unroadworthy with the consequent impact on insurance? I don't know, very grey area! Last edited by blackwolf on 26th Apr 2013 12:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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26th Apr 2013 10:08am |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232
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Hi Ginjez,
Please accept my apologies for asking Geobloke about his lights as I think I may have changed the subject of your thread!?! Geobloke, I like how you have found a place to put low level spots despite the legality which I'm not bothered about as they would only be used off road to cast a shadow in ruts so I can spot them easier. It's very good that the position you have found gives a degree of protection. |
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26th Apr 2013 10:35am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319
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Oops, sorry!  |
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26th Apr 2013 12:50pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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Think of it as a pub conversation which has just progressed from the original question.
I have learnt various things from both the original topic and the spin off topic. Brendan |
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26th Apr 2013 1:29pm |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232
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Brendan,
I couldn't agree more. I have learnt more about Defenders in the last 4 months than I have done in my lifetime. And that is only from you guys(and girls). I am only new to this. I usually hate things like this especially Facebook and another LR forum(whose members are only interested in who has the biggest and who can p  as the furthest) and being very new to it feel an outsider. I know a lot of you guys go back a long way.
My reason for apologising is quite simple. A similar scenario a couple of week ago where someone asked about an electrical issue. Someone else replied to find out it was for a td5 and not a puma(he had a workshop manual). I have been after a puma manual for a longtime so asked him where he got it from. He was very good and gave me the link and I thanked him. The original op got upset by this and passed a sarccy comment about him opening the thread and someone else benefiting from it. That is my reason. I have no issue whatsoever with other people benefiting from a thread I may start and most of the time it is where it leads that is more interesting. If it wasn't for you guys and the banter you have I would have got rid of my 110 a long time ago when I first experienced the problems. You guys with your Wealth of experience and knowledge have made what could have been a nightmare with the dealers, into a pleasurable experience. |
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26th Apr 2013 6:38pm |
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| WarPig Member Since: 04 Dec 2009 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1748
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Mmmm. sounds like Landyzone!  |
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26th Apr 2013 8:43pm |
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