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AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3708

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

willy eckerslike wrote:
It's good to talk

Yep beats working

Got 6 sprinkler storage tank insurance reports to do, looking for any excuse to get out of it.

even offered to make her a cup of coffee but hey ho no rest for the wicked

Last edited by AndrewS on 18th Jan 2010 2:56pm. Edited 1 time in total

18th Jan 2010 2:42pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

OHH nasty I bet and the insurance reports won't be very nice either

Freedom for me tommorrow can't wait done enough drilling to last me for a couple of weeks

Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper

18th Jan 2010 2:50pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

What type of drilling!

Bet the sheep are tired of getting drilled as well! Bet their doing cartwheels as we speak!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

18th Jan 2010 3:27pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey

Re: Ice Cream Cone?

K9F wrote:
Ice cream cone on the roof looks a bit crooked, what's it for??? Looks like a midget in a high lift is sorting it for you anyway!

Its a Roof tent for the little people...teepee.... the high lift is there only way of entry

NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

18th Jan 2010 6:42pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green

willy eckerslike wrote:
Courtesy of DG on the D3 site

http://www.frontalprotectionsystems.eu/

That website is propoganda for the companies that manufacture 'overpriced' frontal protection systems.

Here is an extract from the official dcument:

Quote:

Type-approval provisions
1. With effect from 25 August 2006, in respect of a new
type of vehicle fitted with a frontal protection system which
complies with the requirements laid down in Annex I and
Annex II, Member States shall not, on grounds relating to
frontal protection systems:
(a) refuse to grant EC type-approval or national type-approval;
(b) prohibit registration, sale or entry into service.

2. With effect from 25 August 2006, in respect of a new
type of frontal protection system which is made available as a
separate technical unit and which complies with the requirements
laid down in Annex I and Annex II, Member States shall
not:
(a) refuse to grant EC type-approval or national type-approval;
(b) prohibit sale or entry into service.

3. With effect from 25 November 2006, in respect of a new
type of vehicle fitted with a frontal protection system, or a new
type of frontal protection system supplied as a separate technical
unit, which does not comply with the requirements laid
down in Annex I and Annex II, Member States shall refuse to
grant EC type-approval or national type-approval.

4. With effect from 25 May 2007, in respect of vehicles
which do not comply with the requirements laid down in
Annex I and Annex II, Member States shall, on grounds relating
to frontal protection systems:
(a) consider certificates of conformity which accompany new
vehicles in accordance with Directive 70/156/EEC to be no
longer valid for the purposes of Article 7(1) of that Directive;
(b) prohibit the registration, sale or entry into service of new
vehicles which are not accompanied by a certificate of
conformity in accordance with Directive 70/156/EEC.

5. With effect from 25 May 2007, the requirements under
Annex I and Annex II relating to frontal protection systems
made available as separate technical units, shall apply for the
purposes of Article 7(2) of Directive 70/156/EEC.

Please read carefully, you will realise i looks at vehicles that are manufactured with FPS and it talks about the FPS itself. At no point does it go into fitting an old (Manufactred before 25 May 07) FPS to a vehicle after it has been sold to the public.

At the end of the day, tell your insurance company and if they say no- take it off or go elsewhere where they will insure it.

Glyn

18th Jan 2010 7:46pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

Thanks for that Glyn

NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

18th Jan 2010 7:53pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3708

I have asked martin to move this to a new topic as its not really anything to do with spotted anymore.

Anyway
This insurance thing and wheel,s tyres front protection etc. I take my vehicles to my broker and we go over all the 'extras' that are fitted. The only reason for this is, if anything gets nicked off them I can get it replaced without an argument. Never have they questioned the legality of anything. But then again nothing fitted has been illegal as far as I am concerned.
Has anyone ever heard of an insurance company refusing a payout because the tyres were a bit wider than standard.

18th Jan 2010 8:05pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

Tyres no! A-Bars yes!

AndrewS,

I agree with your sentiments, there may be numerous insurance companies that will continue to provide cover or turn a blind eye over exposed tyre tread but on Confused.com there are numerous companies that will drop off the radar and refuse to provide cover as soon as you declare an A - Bar. Churchill my company is one of them, I telephoned them and they will continue to provide cover and load the premium significantly if the A -Bar is the soft type only, the metal type they will not cover at all! The ramifications of fitting something to your vehicle without notifying or seeking clarification from insurers can be potentially severe! Especially with my 'luck' that's why I always check! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

18th Jan 2010 9:09pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

Right Guys i'm looking at a tubular winch bumper with a bar.....My question is how do i stand with this ?? are they legal or not something like the Extreme 4x4 one do they come in the same category as a A Bar

NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

18th Jan 2010 9:33pm

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3708

So thats a winch mount that is ok to fit

18th Jan 2010 9:50pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

Nice one Andrews....thats the next thing on my list then, after the wife has a holiday!!!! NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

18th Jan 2010 9:57pm

double cab happy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2009
Location: merseyside
Posts: 573

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Java Black

worm can opening service free to all

sorry fekete

19th Jan 2010 8:39am

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

Swinger Kissing!

Soon as finances allow I'm going to join the 'wheels like Carlos Fangdango' clique. They look brilliant! Not sure whether to have Zus or Mach 5s either way they'll be black powder coated, Victor Meldrew and anyone else that has an aversion to 'em can kiss my swingers!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

19th Jan 2010 8:56am

alantd

Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 1513

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

fekete wrote:
Right Guys i'm looking at a tubular winch bumper with a bar.....My question is how do i stand with this ?? are they legal or not something like the Extreme 4x4 one do they come in the same category as a A Bar

There's been lots of investigation of this over time. The law states that 'hard' A-bars are illegal to manufacture and sell (not fit) unless they are demonstrated to be "necessary" for fair use of the vehicle or are used as part of a winch setup. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition

19th Jan 2010 9:41am

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

Re: Swinger Kissing!

Thanks Alantd

[quote="K9F"]Soon as finances allow I'm going to join the 'wheels like Carlos Fangdango' clique. They look brilliant! Not sure whether to have Zus or Mach 5s either way they'll be black powder coated, Victor Meldrew and anyone else that has an aversion to 'em can kiss my swingers!

[quote]

Mal i Like the Mack 5 to be honest...i'll be putting them on as soon as i can...as said as soon as finances allow...they are quite expensive for a steel wheel but look the

danglers......also ill be getting them as a bear steel to save a few quid and get them powder coated myself

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19th Jan 2010 11:04am

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