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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295   
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just a shot in the dark here. do you keep the revs very low or do you tend to rev the engine quite high?
actually not sure why I just asked that cos I think the egr is supposed to be closed at low revs....../ anyway I inclined to suggest you look at the MAP sensor and see if its clogged up with soot as mine was - if so you could trying giving it a clean with carb cleaner or similar. kangarooing was one of symptoms I've had. |
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26th Mar 2013 2:17pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471  
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Perhaps try another dealer, one that does not try and fob you off with the old "but they are all like that" line. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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26th Mar 2013 2:38pm |
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| Cakey Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 468 
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I'm told that's why it's best to remap the 2.2 , it removes this issue ?
My13 does the same on occasions. |
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27th Mar 2013 8:19am |
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| AdvTim Member Since: 04 Dec 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 22 
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Mine is the same |
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27th Mar 2013 11:01am |
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| DMAKX Member Since: 18 Nov 2010 Location: In The Middle Posts: 47  
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Spoke to the dealer again today and it appears to be a common issue with the 2.2 which LR do not have a fix for. It's not officially acknowledged by LR but they have had a number of cars in with the same complaint. He said in his opinion it does need a remap.
Apparently they had the same issues with the 90 2.2 which they issued a fix for which is why the courtesy car was so much better. It is only the 110 they need to fix. Mine is due a service in a few thousand miles so finger crossed LR provide some update in the near future for it. DMAKX |
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27th Mar 2013 3:06pm |
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| Tony Member Since: 13 Mar 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 72 
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Thanks for that DMAKX, I have a 90 2.2 (my first LR) which has the kangarooing problem so hopefully they'll be able to fix it then. Before I took delivery of the Defender I thought it'd be really good at low speeds in traffic etc but in reality it's not as good as my previous car (Suzuki Jimny) which was really smooth just tick tocking along with both feet off the pedals. On the plus side the Defender is better than expected on the motorway at 60. I'm not one for going back to the dealers as soon as a fault appears but the list of issues is starting to grow now so I'll be going back soon.
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29th Mar 2013 12:24am |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195
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Yes Land Rover do have a fix for it, they are downloading the MY13 engine managment software into older vehcles at service much improved, mine is loads better. Mine was done for dpf faults. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.
Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive No Worries 4X4 |
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29th Mar 2013 9:05am |
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| cinstone Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Stourbridge Posts: 375 
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I can confirm mine does the same, but not all the time.
Never noticed it on the test drive, which did include slow speed driving, but it's there now. Not all the time, but does happen. I've a few things on the list to be looked at on the first service. Fortunately, nothing major. Chris. http://shropshirelandrovers.freeforums.org 2015 Defender 90 XS SW & Helen, 1964 IIa. Previously 2012 Defender 90 XS SW & 2008 90 XS SW. Previous LR's: Michael, my 2008 Defender 90 XS SW. Machinas oportet intrare non capsicum annuum faveo |
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29th Mar 2013 2:45pm |
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| borderterrier Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1677 
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My 3 month old MY 13 110XS does it
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29th Mar 2013 2:46pm |
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| J8GHX Member Since: 22 May 2012 Location: Hampshire Posts: 154 
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The software download mentioned isn't automatically put on your vehicle unless you have a specific complaint which will it will cure. Low speed jerkiness and rough/poor high rev gear changes are two of the faults it cures.
It also cures a DPF fault, so call your dealer say you are having rough gear changes and they should put the software upgrade on. I've had mine done, and it's like a different vehicle! Get it done! John Currently....... all gone...... pending delivery of a mid life crisis....... Previously..... Quite a few! I really am a sucker for them! |
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30th Mar 2013 7:54pm |
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| Plodster Member Since: 24 Mar 2013 Location: UK Posts: 22 
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Mine also does it, MY13 90 but I've learnt the only way around is just a tad more slip on the clutch
Remap might be next course.... Hmmmm, thats not mud.... Current: Defender 110 HD Utility (Special Vehicles) Freelander 2 HSE BMW E23 735i Ex: 2013 Defender 90 2.2 1998 Discovery 300TDi 1972 Series II 2.25 1980 Series III 2.25 |
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30th Mar 2013 7:55pm |
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| J8GHX Member Since: 22 May 2012 Location: Hampshire Posts: 154
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PS it's applicable to some 13MY also.
You'll find details of the software patch on Topix, and it shows the chassis number range which it's useful for. John Currently....... all gone...... pending delivery of a mid life crisis....... Previously..... Quite a few! I really am a sucker for them! |
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30th Mar 2013 7:58pm |
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| f15hie Member Since: 14 Feb 2013 Location: Kent Posts: 153 
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Excuse my ignorance but whats Topix?
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30th Mar 2013 8:12pm |
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| J8GHX Member Since: 22 May 2012 Location: Hampshire Posts: 154
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Topix is the Jaguar Land Rover vehicle resource website. It shows vehicle build data, recommended fixes, recall info, instructions for fitment of parts accessories etc.
topix.landrover.jlrext.com/ Hope this helps? Currently....... all gone...... pending delivery of a mid life crisis....... Previously..... Quite a few! I really am a sucker for them! |
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