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Hans



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Rear door replacement? 110 SW
Some time ago I drove my 110 SW backwards against a pole. The rear door got bent and the spare wheel is now making it difficult to access the door handle. My dealer told me that the aluminium door cannot be pushed back into its original shape and needs to be replaced.
Is this true? Any suggestions? Hans
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Post #21969 13th Jan 2010 8:17am
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K9F



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Aluminium Panels!
Aluminium by virtue of it's characteristics is not as malleable (flexible) as steel. Quite often aluminium is also laminated to add extra strength. It is also likely to crack when bending leaving you open to intergranular corrosion.
If as you say the dealer says it cannot be fixed and has to be swapped out you have nothing to lose taking it to an independant 'body shop' and getting a seperate 'expert' opinion. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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I thought the rear door was steel now?
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Hans



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Re: Aluminium Panels!
K9F wrote:
If as you say the dealer says it cannot be fixed and has to be swapped out you have nothing to lose taking it to an independant 'body shop' and getting a seperate 'expert' opinion.


Thanks, I'll get a second opinion first. Hans
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Hans



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Sticky wrote:
I thought the rear door was steel now?

I was told it is alu. It feels like that anyway, but I'm no expert. Hans
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Post #21978 13th Jan 2010 9:41am
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Hans wrote:
Sticky wrote:
I thought the rear door was steel now?

I was told it is alu. It feels like that anyway, but I'm no expert.


In doubt, try a magnet Smile I think It's still an aluminium panel on a steel frame, just like before.

Land Magazine (#84) from Dec. 09 in France has an article on how to repair aluminium panels (when possible), it doesn't look like an easy task Smile

Also maybe check on ebay for second hand doors, might be cheaper, you'll have to respray to get the right color though.
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Hans



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ofourdan wrote:

In doubt, try a magnet Smile I think It's still an aluminium panel on a steel frame, just like before.

Land Magazine (#84) from Dec. 09 in France has an article on how to repair aluminium panels (when possible), it doesn't look like an easy task Smile

Also maybe check on ebay for second hand doors, might be cheaper, you'll have to respray to get the right color though.


I should have thought of the magnet!
I'll try to find the 12/09 issue of Land Magazine, could be helpful, though I doubt if I'll be able to do it myself. A second hand door sounds like a good option. My Def will be in for P019 and Q068 next week, I'll ask my dealer about it. Hans
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o4dn



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ofourdan wrote:
Hans wrote:
Sticky wrote:
I thought the rear door was steel now?

I was told it is alu. It feels like that anyway, but I'm no expert.

In doubt, try a magnet Smile I think It's still an aluminium panel on a steel frame, just like before.
[...]


I just made the test, and to my great surprise, it seems all doors are now steel... The magnet applies on any place on the side or rear doors!

Duh! Anybody confirms?
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Hans



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dgardel wrote:
Is your car a "Puma"? if YES the rear door IS A STELL DOOR!!!!

You guys made me curious so I checked with a magnet and it sticks to the door indeed. So it must be steel (or an alloy with enough steel or iron in it to make magnets stick). I'll try to get it repaired and let you know. Hans
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The front doors and the bonnet are now steel too...LR comes out of the dark ages! 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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RED-DOT wrote:
The front doors and the bonnet are now steel too...LR comes out of the dark ages!


Only to commit to going back to ali on all production cars (the right way) Mike
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I have had the rear door card off and there is a fook off frame. It carries the spare so its pretty robust. Having said that. Take the spare and spare carrier off, take the door off and drive over it and flatten it out. PS you may want to take the glass out. Or take it to a body shop Thumbs Up
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Hans



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AndrewS wrote:
Take the spare and spare carrier off, take the door off and drive over it and flatten it out. PS you may want to take the glass out. Or take it to a body shop Thumbs Up

I could ask my wife to iron it, but it looks more like a body shop job to me. Wink Hans
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Post #22116 14th Jan 2010 5:35pm
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