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mikeh501



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Litch wrote:
I haven't had cause to play with the settings on mine yet but this is mainly due to the springs being too firm anyway. As soon as the springs are replaced I will have a go.
I did play with the settings before I fitted them but to be perfectly honest couldn't notice any difference however that is hardly a scientific way of doing it so when the softer springs are on I will leave them on the standard setting. After a couple of weeks when I have got used to the characteristics across as many different surfaces as possible I will then try a different setting and see if there is a noticeable difference.


You might want to give flat dog springs a try. They do pretty much every permutation of spring length and spring weight. I've got the std height and weight on mine, but might well go for a +2 inch but still standard weight as I've found thee added bits are bringing it down.
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Litch



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mikeh501 wrote:
Litch wrote:
I haven't had cause to play with the settings on mine yet but this is mainly due to the springs being too firm anyway. As soon as the springs are replaced I will have a go.
I did play with the settings before I fitted them but to be perfectly honest couldn't notice any difference however that is hardly a scientific way of doing it so when the softer springs are on I will leave them on the standard setting. After a couple of weeks when I have got used to the characteristics across as many different surfaces as possible I will then try a different setting and see if there is a noticeable difference.


You might want to give flat dog springs a try. They do pretty much every permutation of spring length and spring weight. I've got the std height and weight on mine, but might well go for a +2 inch but still standard weight as I've found thee added bits are bringing it down.


Sticking with Bearmach thanks.
Their rates are correct, it's just that I like a firm spring and I selected the wrong ones for the front and they have almost no give whatsoever while giving a greater lift than is acceptable. I dislike any form of lift, a new spring or one that is slightly stiffer will give a slight height increase which I am content to live with but I belong firmly in the camp that standard height is correct for me.

If it is additional weight that is bringing your vehicle down then surely you should fit a stiffer spring rather than just longer ones otherwise it will be a bit soft & tend to wallow? This is where good shocks pay dividends but I think they would be working overtime and I can't think you would get the best out of them? ONE LIFE, GET IT!
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mikeh501



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Litch wrote:
mikeh501 wrote:
Litch wrote:
I haven't had cause to play with the settings on mine yet but this is mainly due to the springs being too firm anyway. As soon as the springs are replaced I will have a go.
I did play with the settings before I fitted them but to be perfectly honest couldn't notice any difference however that is hardly a scientific way of doing it so when the softer springs are on I will leave them on the standard setting. After a couple of weeks when I have got used to the characteristics across as many different surfaces as possible I will then try a different setting and see if there is a noticeable difference.


You might want to give flat dog springs a try. They do pretty much every permutation of spring length and spring weight. I've got the std height and weight on mine, but might well go for a +2 inch but still standard weight as I've found thee added bits are bringing it down.


Sticking with Bearmach thanks.
Their rates are correct, it's just that I like a firm spring and I selected the wrong ones for the front and they have almost no give whatsoever while giving a greater lift than is acceptable. I dislike any form of lift, a new spring or one that is slightly stiffer will give a slight height increase which I am content to live with but I belong firmly in the camp that standard height is correct for me.

If it is additional weight that is bringing your vehicle down then surely you should fit a stiffer spring rather than just longer ones otherwise it will be a bit soft & tend to wallow? This is where good shocks pay dividends but I think they would be working overtime and I can't think you would get the best out of them?


The reason I was considering extra length not weight is that too much spring weight is the enemy of good articulation, I don't want a lift either, but as I bolt more stuff on you can tell it having an effect. To be fair I get great articulation currently, as my rears pop out from the top mount when fully articulated.
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jst



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whats the difference between a pre and post td5 shock then? bar the £59.99 vs £78.50? Cheers

James
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130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
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Post #219690 16th Mar 2013 9:46pm
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mikeh501



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jst wrote:
whats the difference between a pre and post td5 shock then? bar the £59.99 vs £78.50?


something to do with how it fits onto the axle if i recall.
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jst



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the only difference is the cups on the rear axle for a td5 onwards surely. nothing else fitting wise is different. Cheers

James
110 2010 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #219777 17th Mar 2013 9:57am
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mikeh501



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jst wrote:
the only difference is the cups on the rear axle for a td5 onwards surely. nothing else fitting wise is different.


So, you answered your own question then lol?
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jst



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ok, let me rephrase it, to the only thing i different that i know of is the cup holders on the axle, does anyone know what else is different to justify the price difference? Cheers

James
110 2010 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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