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Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Just a thought: Can I install an ABS-TC in a 08 MY Defender?

Just that, and to do not hijack the previous post.

It is possible to install as a kit the ABS-TC package in a 08 MY without it?
Some idea about the cost?

Cheers! Eduardo

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7th Jan 2010 9:25pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
Posts: 2039

I think it is possible but you need at least other axles or just the speeds sensor parts and ECU's and some new cables. You might have to tell the software that you installed it and I don't think a LR dealer will help you with that part.
It might be cheaper to buy one with ABS and TC. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
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2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
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7th Jan 2010 10:08pm

ay4alex

Member Since: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Midlands
Posts: 328

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Java Black

It's only electrical, no need for new axles

Going with the defender normally, the wiring is also probably already there

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7th Jan 2010 10:30pm

alantd

Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 1513

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

I seem to recall someone investigating this before and it was prohibitively expensive. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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7th Jan 2010 10:38pm

roel

Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
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I don't think you will have wheel speed sensors on a none ABS vehicle. At least you don't have that on a none ABS TD5. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)

8th Jan 2010 6:24pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2436

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

just the modulator costs over 2000 quid Puma 110" SW

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8th Jan 2010 11:32pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green

Just make silly noises, stamp on and off the brake and install a flashing led light, it's much cheaper and has the same effect.

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9th Jan 2010 8:28am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5038

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

willy eckerslike wrote:
Just make silly noises, stamp on and off the brake and install a flashing led light, it's much cheaper and has the same effect.

Not really the same effect! and you cant beat ABS/TC and you cant manually simulate it to the same efficiency or effectiveness.

You will need from memory:
Sensors
Wiring
ABS/TC ECU
Different Hubs
Different Brake disc's (maybe also callipers and pads i cant remember)
Modulator
Pipes Mike

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9th Jan 2010 9:07am

willy eckerslike

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Location: North yorks
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9th Jan 2010 9:13am

ay4alex

Member Since: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Midlands
Posts: 328

mse wrote:
willy eckerslike wrote:
Just make silly noises, stamp on and off the brake and install a flashing led light, it's much cheaper and has the same effect.

Not really the same effect! and you cant beat ABS/TC and you cant manually simulate it to the same efficiency or effectiveness.

You will need from memory:
Sensors
Wiring
ABS/TC ECU
Different Hubs
Different Brake disc's (maybe also callipers and pads i cant remember)
Modulator
Pipes

110 Tdci Double Cab

9th Jan 2010 9:30am

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Ed,it would prob cost less to swop your truck for a new one with ABS/TC. 2.4 90 XS
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9th Jan 2010 12:00pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

Why ABS?????

a real offroader work better WITHOUT!!!!!

Try the abs when descent a snowy hill.....................and pray.............. Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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9th Jan 2010 12:41pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5038

dgardel wrote:
Why ABS?????

a real offroader work better WITHOUT!!!!!

Try the abs when descent a snowy hill.....................and pray..............

Ignoring the fact that Hill descent is based on ABS and off road advice in the handbook says the onlly abs equipped vehicles are recommended to brake on decent

Before anyone says i know pic the speed avoid breaking is the best way. Mike

9th Jan 2010 12:44pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

mse wrote:
dgardel wrote:
Why ABS?????

a real offroader work better WITHOUT!!!!!

Try the abs when descent a snowy hill.....................and pray..............

Ignoring the fact that Hill descent is based on ABS and off road advice in the handbook says the onlly abs equipped vehicles are recommended to brake on decent

Before anyone says i know pic the speed avoid breaking is the best way.

Sorry, I prefer lsd diff not the brake

if someoune want Hll descent, ABS, DSTC .... please chose a X5 or a Q5

have you never drove in a very icy steep reduction with abs....

TC is the best way to destroy shaft and diff Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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9th Jan 2010 3:43pm

willy eckerslike

Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
Posts: 1789

The best would be to have both options i.e. be able to choose when you want traction control, hill descent etc. Then turn them off when you don't. The Hill descent works great in our freelander 1 which doesn't have a low range box, can't stop but at least you can steer :rolllaugh hill descent was also usefull on the corpulent D3.
and you can't deny that traction control on the D3 is very good.

If you haven't fitted a locker or LSD then I suppose ABS Traction etc will be useful on occasions, just a shame we can't decide for ourselves when we want to use it.

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9th Jan 2010 3:51pm

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