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BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Your opinion on tyre repair kits v space saver v full size

Not that Defenders are affected, but what is everyone's opinion on the punture repair "gunge" kits that vehicles are being given instead of spare wheels, even space savers. Better to make run-on-flat tyres mandatory.

I hope that no LR will get the gunge kits or space saver spare wheel instead of a full size OE wheel. Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender

26th Feb 2013 10:21pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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Surely the puncture seal stuff will cause awful vibration and issues too. Like Slime good for a bike tyre or wheel barrow but not a car. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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26th Feb 2013 10:37pm

Shax

Member Since: 05 Oct 2010
Location: London
Posts: 391

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Re: Your opinion on tyre repair kits v space saver v full si

BigWheels wrote:
Not that Defenders are affected, but what is everyone's opinion on the punture repair "gunge" kits that vehicles are being given instead of spare wheels, even space savers. Better to make run-on-flat tyres mandatory.

I hope that no LR will get the gunge kits or space saver spare wheel instead of a full size OE wheel.

I had the gunge kit in my Meriva VXR... Utter piece of cr4p... The compressor is fine, but the white muck is useless... I went out and bought a full sized spare alloy from the dealer, and had a proper rated tyre fitted.. Never had to use the spare after that.. In the end, I px'ed it for my 90!

Just bought a tyre plug kit to keep under the seat.. Just in case!!! ... ,-------,
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26th Feb 2013 10:37pm

x-isle

Member Since: 26 May 2011
Location: Midlands
Posts: 1327

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Depends on the vehicle to be honest.

Where possible, I'd like a full spare.

However, there are occasions where its not possible due to space or safety.

My Motorhome for instance, is based on a long wheelbase Transit and comes with the Ford electric pump with sealant injection. Much better as you won't get me trying to jack that weight up on the side of an Italian Motorway! Craig Rogers

2007 Puma 110 XS
2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux
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26th Feb 2013 10:39pm

bm52

Member Since: 04 Apr 2010
Location: Kent
Posts: 2189

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana

after i hit a brick in the dark on a Welsh mountain road which shredded the side wall I am a firm beliver in a full sized spare. but i do carry tyre weld when driving in Europe BM52

26th Feb 2013 10:46pm

WWA

Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 197

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Orkney Grey

Re: Your opinion on tyre repair kits v space saver v full si

BigWheels wrote:

I hope that no LR will get the gunge kits or space saver spare wheel instead of a full size OE wheel.

Not a defender I know, but my fathers last FFRR Vogue came from the factory, nice and shiny new, all the bells and whistles and a big price tag to go with it, AND..... a space saver rather than a full size spare. Pretty poor on LR behalf, but the full size spare was a unnoticed optional extra. Imagine a RR on a 20inch (?) skinny steel wheel! Classy.

27th Feb 2013 7:24am

me@td5.org

Member Since: 16 Jan 2011
Location: Warwick
Posts: 856

Surely RR driver just gets a man out to fit it for them and have their driver pick them up in the Rolls?

27th Feb 2013 7:35am

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

Space savers are fine yes they limit your top end but you get home

Sealant kits are more common and in the the big wide world of company cars a full size spare affects Co2's and the PCT (personal car tax) to the end user.

we are all FOOKED now a Defner will never be a low CO2 motor but Euro six is around the corner for cars & five for commercials

So we are all FOOKED

27th Feb 2013 7:35am

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

The father in laws my12 freelander came with the gunge kit so we bought a single wheel to match his off eBay about a quater of the price of one from the factory.

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27th Feb 2013 8:03am

MartinK

Member Since: 02 Mar 2011
Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border)
Posts: 2665

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey

bm52 wrote:
after i hit a brick in the dark on a Welsh mountain road which shredded the side wall I am a firm beliver in a full sized spare.

... 2 of my last 3 punctures have been side-wall. One in a hire car in Croatia, and one off-roading in my Disco2. We ordered MrsK's Evoque with a proper spare, and I since bought a space-saver for my XC70.

I will not rely on a gunge/compressor kit unless absolutely necassary

Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)

27th Feb 2013 10:31am

Diablo

Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
Location: Basingstoke
Posts: 335

1984 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Keswick Green

My mate works in a tyre place, and he says they can't/don't repair tyres if the gunge has been used in them.

27th Feb 2013 4:28pm

GUM97

Member Since: 05 Feb 2012
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3555

1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Stornoway Grey

Diablo wrote:
My mate works in a tyre place, and he says they can't/don't repair tyres if the gunge has been used in them.

Absolutely right! Once the tyre weld has been in the tyre, it can't be repaired like a normal puncture could

Interestingly, we bought some new Trucks recently, and they came with this gunge stuff

Mind you, they didn't even come with a spare before, so I suppose that's a step up

An engine to TDi for!
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27th Feb 2013 4:51pm

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green

Also, many tire places will charge you more if you have used one of those tire-weld products. Once the tyre is off they then have to clean the rim before fitting a new one- if it is fresh it takes 20 seconds- if it has been in for a while they have to spend quite a while scraping it off.

Anything bigger than a nail and the tire weld will struggle- especially on a 4x4 tire where there is more flex/ movement in the tread. Minimum I would want to have a space saver.

Oh, Audi R8 comes with a space saver- looked very funny when one turned up at our place

Glyn

27th Feb 2013 5:28pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4654

Over here if you put your vehicle in for the car test with a space saving tyre fitted to an axle it will fail. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

27th Feb 2013 6:04pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

The gunge is a waste of time and ruins your tyres. I've had cars with space savers and used them when needed - they've worked fine at slow speed to get me to a tyre place but out of choice I'd opt for a full size spare.

Usually I've identical full sized spares but my P38 which had 16" alloy wheels had a full size steel spare which was fine.

I can't understand the Defender owners who fit bigger wheels and tyres and then keep the original spare - it looks daft and is as much use as a chocolate fireguard

John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

1st Mar 2013 4:32pm

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