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ClaireWright



Member Since: 12 Oct 2012
Location: Warwickshire
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
engine management light
My engine management light came on this morning on the way back from led bury.....Oscar running fine and no temperature issues...very IDD ?..
Post #203560 20th Jan 2013 1:51pm
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bpman



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switch it off, lock it, wait 5 mins and open up and start again ... amazing how often that fixes issues

otherwise, have a look at the Ultragauge (LorryMan100/Brian) did a great write up, it's a OBDC2 reader and will also allow you to reset them and all for about ฃ60 Thumbs Up
Post #203567 20th Jan 2013 1:58pm
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ClaireWright



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
Thanks bpman....it still on after switching off engine etc and restarting....will get diagnostics on it this week
Post #203580 20th Jan 2013 2:27pm
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ZeDefender



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If the fault has gone, doesn't the light go out after 3 engine cycles (e.g. EGR)?
Or am I raving? I turn mine off with ScangaugeII. Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #203581 20th Jan 2013 2:32pm
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Dieselhead



Member Since: 21 Oct 2012
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Shame you wernt in Sussex as I can turn it off with my Nanocom

A mate has the same prob at the min, will be the 2nd time I have turned it off for him

Will see what faults its kicked up Laughing Chris

2008 XS 110 2.4 Utility. Tonga Green
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Post #203616 20th Jan 2013 4:29pm
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custom90



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Claire - For the price of both ways recorded insured postage you'd be welcome to borrow my Scanner tool. You can at least diagnose the fault and clear it. (Of which it may stay off at best or at worst come back on but you will at least know the issue & DTC) A garage will charge you around ฃ45 to do it.


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Offer's there. Thumbs Up $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #203619 20th Jan 2013 4:39pm
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ZeDefender



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Why is your hand so shiny?
Love the colour (the scanner, not your hand...) Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #203626 20th Jan 2013 5:22pm
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custom90



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ZeDefender wrote:
Why is your hand so shiny?
Love the colour (the scanner, not your hand...)

It's called the Sun Matt. We don't see it much lately though. Confused $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #203633 20th Jan 2013 5:38pm
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ClaireWright



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Thanks for the offer Steve..will see if light on again tomorrow,its due to go to have some work done thus coming week as well
Post #203634 20th Jan 2013 5:46pm
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mcma1



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my light came on as well today and i have no running issues. its been a bit smokey and lumpy on start up these part few weeks, i suspect maybe glow plugs but will see tomo..
Post #203657 20th Jan 2013 6:55pm
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Lorryman100



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Some info on the MIL light and DTC's from another thread. Thumbs Up


lorryman100 wrote:


Thought I would try and explain the differences in DTC codes. So here goes:

There are basically two types of DTC codes for OBDII Diagnostics:

Emissions related DTC's Tested DTC's
Type A

1. Emissions related.
2. The Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) will be illuminated as soon as the error occurs.
3. Stores a freeze frame DTC after one failed driving cycle.( history DTC is stored )

Type B

1. Emissions related.
2. Sets a Pending Trouble Code after one failed driving cycle.
3. Clears a Pending Trouble Code after one successful driving cycle.
4. Turns on the MIL after two/three consecutive failed driving cycles.
5. Stores a Pending Trouble Code as a DTC after two consecutive failed driving cycles.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC – Type A or Type B

The MIL will turn off after four consecutive driving cycles in which the diagnostic runs without a fault.
A history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive warm up cycles without a fault.
DTC(s) can be cleared by using a scan/diagnostic tool.

Non–Emissions Related DTCs Un Tested DTC's

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

1. The Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) will not illuminate.
2. The ECM will record a DTC at the time the diagnostic fails.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

A history DTC will clear after 40 consecutive warm up cycles without a fault.
DTC(s) can be cleared by using a scan/diagnostic tool.

How to read a DTC Code

The DTC value will help you narrow down the specific component or module in question. A DTC has a standardized format that can be interpreted as follows:
The first part of the DTC is the Alpha Designator. The alpha designator will be:

B - Body electronics (i.e., door and hood latches)
C - Chassis (i.e., traction control or ABS)
P - Powertrain (i.e., engine, transmission)
U - Network communications for the different control modules

Second Digit - Code Type
The second digit identifies whether the code is a generic code (same on all OBD-II equpped vehicles), or a manufacturer specific code.

0 = Generic (The diagnostic codes that are required by law on all OBD II systems are "generic" in the sense that all vehicle manufacturers use the same common code list and the same 16-pin diagnostic connector. Thus, a P0301 misfire code on a Ford means the same thing on a Vauxhall, Citroen, Toyota or Mercedes.)

1 = Enhanced ( Each vehicle manufacturers also have the freedom to add their own "enhanced" codes to provide even more detailed information about various faults. Enhanced codes also cover non-emission related failures that occur outside the engine control system. These include ABS codes, HVAC codes, airbag codes and other body and electrical codes.)

Third Digit - Sub-System

The third digit denotes the type of sub-system that pertains to the code

1 = Emission Management (Fuel or Air)
2 = Injector Circuit (Fuel or Air)
3 = Ignition or Misfire
4 = Emission Control
5 = Vehicle Speed & Idle Control
6 = Computer & Output Circuit
7 = Transmission
8 = Transmission
9 = SAE Reserved
0 = SAE Reserved

Fourth and Fifth Digits
These digits, along with the others, are variable, and relate to a particular problem code error number

So let's diagnose a DTC, I've picked P0404-73 EGR control circuit range/performance: actuator stuck closed

so we have:
P = Powertrain (engine, transmission)
0 = Generic
4 = Emissions control
0 4 =This is the specific error code within Emission control. In this case the EGR control circuit range/performance
-73= This is a specific problem, in this case the actuator is stuck closed.
Post #203665 20th Jan 2013 7:13pm
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