Odin wrote:

Does anyone know whether the roof of the puma, say a 110 hardtop, is strong enough to prevent collapse in the event of flipping?

Think the picture below answers your initial query. As for the second most vehicles produced today will not withstand a rollover without roof collapse. As mentioned whatever driving style you have it is usually the owner's responsibility to add the necessary modifications for functionality, protection and safety. Cost in production prevents the onus falling to the manufacturer for every scenario.

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bpman wrote:

You will remember def-00 rolled his in the dessert, the roof folded a bit but he walked away ok.

see http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic12055.html

Roll cages - I guess is depends on the environment and driving style

Walking away was pure luck, Not sure how I ended up moving lower down the seat by the 3rd roll I was slouched down with the roof resting on my shoulders / dashboard. I agree with BP it depends on the environment & driving style, if driving in fast offroad or you have to drive on a sideways gradient better to have a roll cage. And depending on how many people will be in you can get cages for the front only, front + 2nd row or complete cage. Whatever you do best to be safe out there wether on the road or off it. 2012 Fuji White 110 Flattened

K9F wrote:

Think the picture below answers your initial query. As for the second most vehicles produced today will not withstand a rollover without roof collapse. As mentioned whatever driving style you have it is usually the owner's responsibility to add the necessary modifications for functionality, protection and safety. Cost in production prevents the onus falling to the manufacturer for every scenario.

twopoint6khz wrote:

To be fair the vehicle in that picture looks very much like it has had its roof cut off by the emergency services - the windscreen pillars are completely missing.

Wouldn't want to roll a Defender though, agreed.

blackwolf wrote:

twopoint6khz wrote:

To be fair the vehicle in that picture looks very much like it has had its roof cut off by the emergency services - the windscreen pillars are completely missing.

Wouldn't want to roll a Defender though, agreed.

Doubtful. The screen pillars tend to snap at top and bottom and fall off, the result looking just like the photo.

Disco 3 and 4 are amongst the most crash-worthy vehicles on the road. The integral cage is so strong that LR had to produce a cutting diagram to show the emergency services where to cut in order to perform an extraction; most of the cage is toughened and can't be cut.

Remember the photos of the G4 Disco hit by the Audi in SA?

Agree 100% with your comments the Defender screen pillars are just cast alloy and break really easily anyone that's ever tried to fit a Safari Snorkel to a D3/4 will know how strong their pillars are