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MD5



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Difference between Bell Auto Service and ALIVE
I see that both Bell Auto Service and Alive Tuning sell the interface to write custom maps to the engine ECU. They also sell maps with various power/torque ratio, EGR and speed limiter shut off.

Apparently they sell a similar products, just to understand, which are the difference between the two brands ?
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Bas was selling this system long before alive the unit itself is the same but no doubt the tuning will be different and as you want it

Plus Pete at Bas is cheaper than alive



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Post #184328 12th Nov 2012 2:38pm
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Not a lot. Shocked Both tuners have their followers and they will support their choice no matter what, and as I don't know of anyone whom has both tunes to compare them like for like on a rolling road and publish them for all to see, then I would say it is down to your choice as to who you think does the best tune? This subject always results in a Censored contest and a search will show you the numerous posts with differing opinions viewed by owners of tunes from both companies. Remember that there are only so many variables that can be changed safely and to say one is better than the other without cold hard data is just speculation in my book, so I would say again it is all down to your personal choice (customer service, feedback etc. Both are good on this forum BTW) and price. Thumbs Up
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***Edit***Well put as ever Lorryman. Pipped me to the post but written in the same train of thought I believe... Thumbs Up

Naturally those that have purchased each different variant of remap will profess it to be the best. Historically it is probably not the prudent thing to do to ask for a comparison as emotions can run high, teddies get thrown out of cots and it all ends in tears.
Speak to each supplier in turn and see if they can meet your requirements and what after marketing tweaks are available should the map not reach your true expectations. Then make a sensible well-balanced decision on your own research and feedback experiences from the horses mouth, not from hearsay or 'I can pee higher and faster than you type misinformation.'
As a footnote I have a remap and it is neither of the two suppliers you mention...... is it any good? Hell Yes! It's the best. (Written tongue in cheek of course) I know it to be inferior but for me it suits my needs and reaches my expectations.

A quick search through the threads and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Willy best reply I've seen to a post in ages! Did make me laugh......lots! Rolling with laughter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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K9F wrote:


Willy best reply I've seen to a post in ages! Did make me laugh......lots! Rolling with laughter


Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
Glad it wasn't just me! Was a nice quiet office too.....
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warren wrote:
Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Glad it wasn't just me! Was a nice quiet office too.....


Trouble is I found it that funny I very nearly let a little bit of wee go too! On reflection I think this is at my #1 funniest response.

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K9F wrote:
Pipped me to the post but written in the same train of thought I believe...



You got it K9F Thumbs Up


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The hardware is made from Alientech (YESSS ITALIAN COMPANY) .

Every tuner do "personal" the job for the maps, calibration parameters and so on......

The hardware is only a "computer", tuners install his own data...


I prefer my Partner!!!! Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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I have both tunes ....

Alive did my TD5 130 and BAS did my Puma 130.

Both companies provided a very good service, both tunes make the Land Rover's go faster, does that help .... Mr. Green
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dgardel wrote:
The hardware is made from Alientech (YESSS ITALIAN COMPANY) .


which is why K9F and I both have Autologic tunes! Laughing
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Thanks all for your opinion, after reading, I can say that both brand are good choice.
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BAS have an italian referent, a very good referent........... Whistle Whistle Whistle Whistle


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dgardel wrote:
BAS have an italian referent, a very good referent........... Whistle Whistle Whistle Whistle Named Outback Engineering Whistle Whistle Whistle


Nothing quite as gratifying than a little self-worship..... Rolling with laughter Bow down Rolling with laughter

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