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Coko Member Since: 31 Jul 2009 Location: Searching... Posts: 29 |
Just checked and spikes (as on the Nokians) are not allowed in Slovakia :blub:
Any other recommendations please??? |
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1st Oct 2012 12:33pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
The spikes are optional - you have to pay extra to have them in. The tyres are excellent without them (probably the best available)
(My Maxxs can also be spiked but it would be illegal here too) Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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1st Oct 2012 12:45pm |
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Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015 |
Isn't that 9 months of the year.... or is it 11? I just speak from personal experience in wet/ cold/ snow. I have even driven fully loaded 14 ton trucks in North Norway in January which didn't have winter tires..... but I don't drive around like an idiot when the conditions change I know how the vehicle handles and I know my limits. Touch wood I have never caused an accident in cold conditions. If I had a performance car then yes there would be a need for performance tires..... but I drive a Defender and I drive it like I am driving Miss Daisy. Also as pointed out above- how many people in the UK have winter tires?..... About 1% (if that). Why be able to stop isn a short distance when you know the car behind you can't? Yes it won't go on your insurance but it would be better not to be in the situation in the first place. Glyn |
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1st Oct 2012 12:59pm |
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Lodelaner Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Lambourn Posts: 630 |
No - they've been on there a while, but it depends on the size and load rating whether they're 'snowflaked' or not. I had a set on my D3 - but its hard to say how much of a difference they made without direct comparison. A few years ago went laning in ice and snow in Cumbria in the 90. The siped tread patterns (AT + snowflake) performed much better, in various conditions than the MTs on the 90's in the group. JB @Lodelaner Instagram Youtube greenlaning and other LR related content |
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1st Oct 2012 1:29pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
Grabber AT2s for the winter? They are a rather hard rubber compound, exactly the opposite what you need in the winter.... You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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1st Oct 2012 2:52pm |
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ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328 |
Git |
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1st Oct 2012 2:54pm |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
In my experience (three different sizes on three different Land Rovers), they perform very well in UK winter conditions. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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1st Oct 2012 2:57pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
13? Glyn, your earlier description of what summer temps are doing to winter tires is a bit, ahumm, exaggerated? Have seen many wintertires being used for their end of life in the summer, and yes, it often gets into the 30's here in Geneva ,but never seen smoke and fire or a total meltdown after a few 100 miles......... Seriously, the recommendation here is that with winter tires you use them in the winter until the profile gets to 4mm. Thereafter you don't keep them for use as winter tires anymore, but you can still leave them on and run them down a bit more (legally to 1.6mm) in the summer. Know people who do this, succesfully run a full last summer on their wintertires/rims, before buying a new set of wintertires come October. Same time you leave your summertires/rims one full year in storage. Then, the next year, you start alternating again... Think makes sense. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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1st Oct 2012 3:10pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Have done this on the A2 since last October (and with a VW bus for years) with no problems except a bit noisy when it got really hot. Actually, they've worn so little there's still 3+mm tread. Okay for emergencies but I'll get nice new ones next October Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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1st Oct 2012 3:45pm |
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Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015 |
13, that is possible They didn't melt, they just started to break up. Could have had something to do with the Evo 10 they were on. Don't think the guy ever got over 200 miles to a tank (55litres).... but when you get tax free fuel (80c a litre) you can afford to push the boundaries a little. Those were the days when I could afford to run the V8. Also in Paderborn they would store your tires..... So you buy them from a place (with rims if needed) and then when they fit them they put your summer tires in the back storage area. Spring time once the snow had gone you could go back and pay 10 Euro and they would fit the summer ones and store the winter ones until you go back for them. Glyn |
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1st Oct 2012 4:34pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Very common around here as many people live in flats and don't have anywhere to store them (also old people). A good system Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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1st Oct 2012 5:29pm |
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twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 654 |
Some UK tyre places are doing that now
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1st Oct 2012 5:34pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
That's the most positive thing I've heard all day Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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1st Oct 2012 5:39pm |
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Inigo Member Since: 13 Nov 2011 Location: Kent Posts: 617 |
Kwik Fit have started offering a tyre "hotel" where they store your winter/summer tyres for 6 months, however a German friend who moved over here found that when he went back to Kwik Fit to get his wife's summer tyres re-fitted they gave him someone elses very worn tyres instead.
I think we have a way to go yet, but at least companies are beginning to offer this service. |
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1st Oct 2012 6:02pm |
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