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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348  
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Mal - How did it go with the EGR in the en? Did it sort it's self? Or did you clean it or replace it? Mines playing up now on and off. No trouble to remove it just wondering what is a good solution obviously the best solution would be to replace but is cleaning possible? Like you say petrol or brake cleaner I assume.... $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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25th Sep 2012 4:29pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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Steve,
I ended up having a new EGR fitted under warranty, shortly afterwards I blanked it using the blanks with the various holes in the middle that you swapped out going smaller each time for optimum performance. Mine's still fitted and have had no problems since.... 
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic3115.html If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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25th Sep 2012 6:04pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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Mal - Interesting to read. I assume then with the blank that you've not had any issues then? May I ask what it cost you ?
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25th Sep 2012 6:19pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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I've "lost the plot a bit" - is there now an available mechanical blanking kit that actually works (i.e. no MIL)?
... with instructions 
p.s. @Steve - wifey's Beetle is bangin' (just hope she doesn't realise what I did to it  ) Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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25th Sep 2012 6:38pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Not really, my philosophy is if it ain't broke don't fix it! Two and a half years ago there wasn't any method of blanking the EGR valve without enduring a constant MIL light and a P1103 associated fault code. Dependant on how your vehicle was configured (RAI, remap, performance air filter etc...) a potential solution was derived whereupon you started with a blank with a large hole in the middle and worked your way down until you got a MIL light then went back to the previous larger blank to keep the light out. Well it worked for me and several others (see the thread) it also continues to do so. Up to that point I had endured several issues with EGR Valve related faults. Since then nothing at all. BAS came up with a programmable switch off for the EGR but I don't have his remap, as stated I continue to run with the original blank and with 'what I am familiar with.' Steve, Pete from BAS originally gave a few sets away free in 2008 for trial purposes. 87% of a poll stated it improved the vehicle. I got mine from Robofarmer some considerable time later and cannot remember how much I paid but was ballpark £30-£50 I think. It was worth it from my perspective just to rid myself of my EGR Valve woes. Even the swap out of my EGR Valve under warranty became a nightmare I recall because I 'lost my remap' during the process. Despite having no obligation to do so (due to it not being his remap) Pete from BAS came to the fore and offerred his expertise and advice to help me get my remap issues sorted, which did indeed take some time (four months in the end). If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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26th Sep 2012 8:27am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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Ah I see. The EGR seem's to have been a right PITA for a lot of people. I assume when you mention trying different sizes of blank there is a selection of blanks of differing sizes to choose from until the correct one is used without MIL coming on. I assume the small hole left in the blank is to keep the sensors ect working? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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26th Sep 2012 9:40am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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^^^^^^^^^
Spot on Steve. I'm not even sure if the blanks are still available. If not you're welcome to try the five I have left over. If I can find them.
If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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26th Sep 2012 9:47am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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I got something right then.
 Thanks for the offer. Trouble is if my EGR is already playing up is that still going to be an issue anyway? Or I guess with the code cleared and the MIL turned off that should be the end of it. The most annoying thing ever it is because it comes on for ages you think I'll have to change EGR for a new one and next minute the MIL goes off. Most the time I get the cleaning cycle after engine shut down but occasionally not. And occasionally a little EGR chatter.  Forgot to mention. What sizes do the blanks range from?
*EDIT* Found these on E-bay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=egr+...;_osacat=0 Will have a look later as you will notice a few are for the 2.4 $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸ðŸ›¢ï¸âš™ï¸ðŸ§°ðŸ’ª |
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26th Sep 2012 10:01am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638  
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My local indie now strips & cleans the EGR as a standard service item on all Pumas --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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26th Sep 2012 10:23am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Sizes are all detailed in the first post of my previous link....Had a quick look on your E-bay link, a word of caution, they seem to be a single size....Each vehicle can run differently dependant on tune, and extras such as Snorkel, RAI, air filter etc. etc. to get the optimum set up for yours I would recommend a trial and error with different sizes of orifice, should that be the way you decide to go. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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26th Sep 2012 10:47am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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Thanks for all the info Mal and I've just had a look at the link
What I think I'll do for now is just get my MOT coming up over with and sort out the EGR I have at the moment / get a new one. From there on when I know everything is okay is then the time to fiddle with some blanks Did you notice a noticeable performance increase with a blank fitted? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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26th Sep 2012 11:18am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Steve do you ever take time to read the links? Blimey good job I've got a little time on my hands eh?
Taken from SAME link....
The engine is discernably quieter with the blank fitted....What you won't get is that Ferrari type performance increase we all yearn for, for little or no outlay. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
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26th Sep 2012 12:21pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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Sorry
 Quieter I'm not so keen on I like the noise  But the economy side is a plus though. Had a little look at it earlier before it started raining but stopped because of the rain but seems easy enough to remove although the electrical plug must have a certain way of un-clipping. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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26th Sep 2012 1:25pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Sorry Steve poor explanation....It's the 'clatter' at idle that is quieter not the normal engine running sound....Also you're not putting so many impurities back into the engine.... Bonus is better economy, depends how you drive though.
See Daniele's post page 2 of this very thread.... EGR deletion in diesel engines is considered justifiable by a wide range of people, including the environmentally conscious. Although deleting the EGR system results in increased NOx level; hydrocarbon emissions, particulates, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide are drastically reduced. Furthermore, EGR deletion results in an increase in fuel economy as high as 25%. Exhaust gas recirculated back into the cylinders adds wear-inducing contaminants and causes an increase engine oil acidity, which can result in an inefficient, poorly running engine. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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26th Sep 2012 1:36pm |
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