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excossack



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Washable airfilters
What are peoples thoughts on using a washable air filter on a TD5 with standard tune (no centre silencer and no EGR, 10P engine)
I have seen comments about the filters you spray with oil creating issues with the MAF.
Do they really give extra power & MPG ? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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To give more power, they must allow more air through, so more air the more likely there is more dirt getting into your engine.
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Stick with the standard filter, Washable filters are rubbish, at least in dusty conditions they are.
You don't need any more airflow unless you had a remap, in which case pull that hiclone thing out of the bottom of your airbox & you instantly get 25-30% more airflow.
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excossack



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Thanks for the replies chaps.Always worth weighing up the opinions.
What Hiclone thing do you refer to? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Remove the air inlet pipe from the bottom of the airbox [the one from the wing grill to filter housing] .... its a bugga to remove but you need it out of the way,
Then you will feel a restriction in the opening on the airbox. Reach in with pliers, grip the restrictor and yank it out Cool
Looks like a hyclone/ fixedpropeller .. it purpose was to restrict water ingress through the intake , unfortunetely it also restricts air flow. Rolling Eyes Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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i have the alive air filter much like a k&n one, really i cant see the difference but it must work k&n is a big name so it cant be false advertising, in the long run its alot cheaper aswell Thumbs Up CSK Automotive
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Killer90 wrote:
k&n is a big name so it cant be false advertising, :



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i spose Rolling with laughter its like an exhaust yer stainless or non its the same size same shape but dont rust, now how can you get more performance from one thats stainless Question Thumbs Up CSK Automotive
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Killer90 wrote:
i have the alive air filter much like a k&n one.


Should have gone with an ITG Wink GBR
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The Alive filter is an ITG Rolling Eyes

Having had one in our old TD5 DII, IMHO the problems of oil contamination of MAF's far outweighs the marginal benefits on Land Rover engines. I accept that there may be some performance gains in a free revving petrol or even in a very highly tuned diesel, but for most Land Rover applications you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference. Darren

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quentin



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excossack wrote:
Thanks for the replies chaps.Always worth weighing up the opinions.
What Hiclone thing do you refer to?


check this thread, theres a picture of that hiclone thing that you need to remove.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic14313....p;start=15


As far as Washable filters, My old 90 hybrid had a 5 litre Ford V8 & to tell you the truth, I put a K&N filter on it & apart from the sticker it made no difference at all. Human nature as it is you spend the $$ on something & the placebo effect comes into play. But frankly I'd stick with the standard element. Even more so because of the comments about the MAF.
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excossack



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Cheers for the link, I didnt know it was there, I will have a look at the weekend. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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