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big steve



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
amazing
tuning companys are claiming that they can get over 180hp from a puma ?

id really love to see this on paper from a dyno as i really cant believe that this is possible
yes i know you can get alot from a td5 but you have 5 cylinders doing the work not 4


steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
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Post #151015 18th Jun 2012 6:55pm
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wslr



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I've got a rolling road session on Thursday. Rolling Eyes I'm not expecting much. Rolling with laughter
Post #151017 18th Jun 2012 7:03pm
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Glynparry25



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Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
I have this months copy of 'Australian 4wd action' and there is an article on that. Will scan it in once back in Cyprus. But just an insight:

But it is a 2.4 Puma with the following:

Bigger intercooler
2.5" turbo back exhaust
Uprated turbo
Port and polished head

On top of that the engine is 'chipped'. I am guessing he is talking something like DTA as it was then tuned up on a dyno. Results are:

Power: 138kW (185bhp)
Torque: 689Nm

Being on the dyno it is WAY more accurate than any rolling road.

Glyn Dog Sheep
Post #151023 18th Jun 2012 7:12pm
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twopoint6khz



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
Number of cylinders doesn't really matter, other than dynamic balance issues and a nicer noise? You've got 2.4l of displacement, so almost as much as a Td5. Of far more consequence would be injection technology, turbo pressure and type, etc etc etc.

I'd have though if you heavily modified it you could strangle 300bhp out of a Puma.... it would explode after 5 minutes, but that's not the point. Whistle
Post #151025 18th Jun 2012 7:14pm
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bpman



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
VW can squeeze 174bhp out of a 1.4, ford can do similar with their new petrol engines - it should be possible.
Post #151072 19th Jun 2012 6:18am
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
bmw 123d (and Alpina D3) are actually 2 litres and are 206BHP standard (2 turbos to also make it flexible) some tuners are now claiming 250 BHP+ from 2 litre BMW diesels. Did I read somewhere that the 2.4 Puma has a along stroke / bore ratio limiting the revs and hence the power (torque x revs = power) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #151075 19th Jun 2012 6:34am
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twopoint6khz



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Java Black
Here's a 1.6 turbo petrol with 300+bhp:

http://www.minimotorsport.com/en/wrc/car

Obviously slightly different to a Puma engine....
Post #151083 19th Jun 2012 7:34am
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