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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731   
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I think you're right - Dave Ashcroft posted somewhere they are looking into MT82 HD gearboxes, as used with the 3.2 but apparently the differences aren't huge apart from bearings.
Not sure how all that torque would be for some vehicles - even with the 2.4, my 110 juddered like hell until Gary made a "tamed" map  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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23rd Mar 2012 9:00pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Dave, does the current 3.2 use a DMF?
Incidentally (and sorry for going a bit  ) do you have any idea what might be causing whole-car juddering with a more "optimistic" remap? It gets worse the higher the gear, at 1500-2000 rpm when I put my foot down and the torque comes in. In my defense, I'm not the only member with this symptom 
Apologies if I've asked you this before 
Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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25th Mar 2012 9:29am |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456  
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Found some more info out today nene are doing a conversion but I've heard rumours there going to want 10500 + vat all done ? 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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28th Mar 2012 5:37pm |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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Clutch Judder, your springs will fall out eventually.  Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper |
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29th Mar 2012 8:52am |
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| bell-auto-services Member Since: 08 Jul 2007 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2232 
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The engine and modifyed Ashtrans MT82 box is in and fitted to the Nene Overland 3.2 Defender project car allong with the transit clutch to take the power etc. pipework is in progress and the project is looking good and on target for me to start my part in making the thing run
 . Pictures coming soon.
Pete |
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29th Mar 2012 10:11am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Even with the "new" Puma clutch? I REALLY hope you're wrong  unless it's withing the next 2 years warranty 
(but thanks anyway) Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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29th Mar 2012 11:19am |
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| Mark Hope Member Since: 25 Aug 2011 Location: Germany at the moment Posts: 19 
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hi
any more news or pics on this project pete have u got it yet to do ur thing on it i am thinking of doing it on my 2.2 next year but dont now about it or the rules of insurance and taxing as emissons are diffrent and more powerfull any one know any thing on this? thanks for any help |
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7th Apr 2012 8:15pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101  
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thats cool Pete. can't wait for the results |
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7th Apr 2012 9:15pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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To me to me to me.. Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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7th Apr 2012 11:01pm |
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| Alive Tuning Member Since: 01 Mar 2010 Location: Louth Posts: 610
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Has anybody thought about using the 3.2 engine and auto box from the Ford Ranger? The whole assembly and wiring should be fairly straight forward to transplant, and it'll sort the clutch/flywheel issues out too. Maybe I should try it!
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7th Apr 2012 11:27pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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... sounds even more interesting - I've decided to get an autobox in a few years anyway
Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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8th Apr 2012 11:04am |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456
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that could be interesting with the wiring you have to remeber people still want manual
dont get me wrong if the option was possibly there i would maybe go down it but its just once again more wiring things to go wrong i know we have moved on and the td5 and tdci have proved there own but i certainly couldnt justify 4k ish for a 4 speed auto from ashcrofts it just seems like your going backwards every othere car company have 6-7 speed autos not landrover defender othere thing to consider is its another ecu that need waterproofing ? gary if you think its worth doing crack on mate but personally i think ill be going 3.2 manual with uprated clutch and flywhee lon a transit gearbox to take the extra ponys im just waiting for the thing to get on and get working i want it in my truck lol regards stsve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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8th Apr 2012 5:29pm |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456
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any more info been put about for this ?
regards steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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29th Apr 2012 4:40pm |
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| Mark Hope Member Since: 25 Aug 2011 Location: Germany at the moment Posts: 19
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Hi to all and sorry for any bad spelling
went down to nene overland a few weeks ago to see the 3.2 in one of there cars and got lots of info so hopefully this will help answer some 
the engine sits in the same place as the standerd tdci so no cutting of the chassis or bulkhead but u will have to cut ur coolent hose's as the engine is 4" longer because of the extra cylinder u can use all the same ac pump, power steering punp, altanater and the rest of the standerd car wich makes this convertion cheaper.
i have read what u guys and girls are saying all this power will distroy the standerd box no need to worry as Andy from Nene has used the heavy duty 6speed box from ford and if u dont want a manual and think the 4 speed auto is out dated Andy is working on a 6speed auto to fit wich he says will be ready about september time
ok i know what u are thinking can we just go and get a 3.2 and throw it in no am afrad not as Andy doese change and move things on the engine to make it fit and run and it is a tight fit. mods to the bonnet, exhaust down pip and ac pump braketall have to be done to get it in.
the power of the standerd 3.2 u all now and has been said but if thats still to little u can have 300HP TDV6 POWER 
price. well its not cheap to have Nene do the convertion for u would cost about £13,000+, but u can save a little if u dont mind getting ur hands derty as this convertion is going to be avalibul in kit form to, for about £10,000+. But these prices are only estamit's, DO NOT include VAT and may/will change I hope this helps if u have any questions please ask as i might have mist some stuff out  sorry
i have pics of the engine in and will try and upload them today thanks for reading Mark[/img] |
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