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lambert.the.farmer



Member Since: 11 Apr 2012
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England 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Rutland Red
three point linkage
Hi, odd question but can you get a three point linkage for the back of a land rover? Reason being to see if it is cheaper to mod the 90 and use it for its lightness in soft condition eg spreading tillage or whether a new baby tractor would be cheaper.

Cheers in anticipation. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
Post #140641 21st Apr 2012 8:29am
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Romadog



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What your wanting is an Agrover. This is a modified Land Rover on portal axles, but more of a Fastrac/Trantor, than a tractor. Get the right tool for the job and get a tractor.
However if you fancy the idea of mowing a paddock with your land rover then get a series 2 with a rear PTO (not cheap) and tow a trailed mower (also rare, unless self powered). This is what I'd like to be able to do.
Post #140642 21st Apr 2012 8:35am
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lambert.the.farmer



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We have plenty of tractors which do the majority jobs just fine but the lightest is still best part of 2500kg without implements and being 2wd does get stuck in soft ground. Will go see what I can find in the sub tonne category. Though a land rover on portal's sounds fun. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
Post #140653 21st Apr 2012 9:19am
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The Musketeer



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Unimog, it's what Land Rovers grow up to be! Good things come to the wild and free
Post #140660 21st Apr 2012 9:46am
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Zinke



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Remember unless you buy the agrover as stated above then a lond rover does not have a live PTO so will be useless for any kind of precision top work as the pto speed changes when you change gear. If you want some ideas then i suggest you buy this months LRO mag as it has a feature on the Agrover.

Pete
Post #140662 21st Apr 2012 9:51am
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diesel_jim



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The linkage on the agrover was connected to the rear axle (salisbury), so that when you lifted the implement up, the suspensions didn't just do down instead.

Agrover had a trayback type of rear, cur off short so that the axle was near enough at the back (to enable the linkage to reach out)


There was in article on this months LRM on them funnily enough. Great looking machines Thumbs Up (although i'd prefer a 'mog... Whistle )
Post #140669 21st Apr 2012 10:25am
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JWL



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Here's an alternative to your problem, I've used these things years ago and towed them with anything from Land Rovers to quads. In some really wet years a quad and one of these were the oly things that could travel as the footprint was so light and having a pto solution sorted with the engine on the front enabled sprayers and fert spinners to work. The disadvantage was having the 3 point linkage fixed so the likes of toppers or tillage equipment was comprimised but I do remember seeing a chap who had the back axle off a TE20(it is going back a bit!) with a drawbar in place of the gearbox/engine etc and he had a donkey engine powering a hydraulic pack to work the "tractor" hydraulics. The link below offers many solutions for all type of uses;

http://www.logictoday.co.uk/agriculture_system40spreader.php

The home page;

http://www.logictoday.co.uk/index.php
Post #140674 21st Apr 2012 11:15am
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Romadog



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One engine or two ??

Match the towing vehicle to job being carried out and the implement behind

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Post #140681 21st Apr 2012 11:56am
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A few guys have done it on the Series2 club forum. They fitted 3 point linkages and PTO's for baling etc Thumbs Up Not sure how you would sort a "fixed throttle" that the Series 2 have on a 90...
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Harryb450



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blackwolf



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I am not aware of anyone who has offered a 3-point linkage for a landrover for many years.

Historically such systems were never much of a success, due to the need for rear suspension lock-outs, and because by the time you have the weight of the implement on the back plus possibly a rear pto, the front wheels tend to lift. Add nose weight and the whole thing becomes excessively heavy.

It has been done, you can probably pull a 2-farrow plough with one with some success, or a light implement such as a spreader. Generally for non-ground-contact implements, the best approach with a Landrover has been to build them into the rear load-space.

I suspect that you will end up having to build this yourself if you go ahead, and unfortunately that it will be expensive and not particularly satisfactory. It would be interesting to see the results though.
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lambert.the.farmer



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England 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi PU Rutland Red
At the moment I like the idea of carving up a 135 for its back axle and electrifying(ep) the the hydraulic system and towing the lot on the basis of more wheels means less ground pressure. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
Post #141128 23rd Apr 2012 4:05pm
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TEAB



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This just happens to be sat in the barn of one of the farms I do bits for..........
https://www.defender2.net/gallery/displayi...;pos=-7269
https://www.defender2.net/gallery/displayi...&pos=0
Post #141152 23rd Apr 2012 5:15pm
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Romadog



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Do they use it?
Are they willing to sell it?
Post #141216 23rd Apr 2012 7:54pm
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pom



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Maybe you could modify this system ?

Pom
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