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| Sonic3d Member Since: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Ross on Wye Posts: 1505   
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It is a defender at the end of the day
 If you want nice fiting panels and shut lines buy a Disco or RR. |
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15th Feb 2008 12:50pm |
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| simond Member Since: 15 Feb 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 26
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You haven't seen mine.
Didn't say i wanted nice shut lines. My doors don't fit and some don't open. Defenders I bought 3 years ago and my 94 Frogs Island 90 V8 4.2 soft top are infinitely better. And I have had new RRs and Discos but I prefer the Defender. I just expect the quality to be as bad as ever in 2008, not far worse. Simon D |
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15th Feb 2008 1:22pm |
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| JSG Member Since: 12 Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2412 
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Doesn't sound good but you can't apply the comments to the whole of the production line. Most of the Puma Defenders seem to be put together well - there are always going to be some issues with a new model and these tend to get reported more than the ones that have nothing wrong.
Are you getting it replaced with another one? |
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15th Feb 2008 2:12pm |
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| simond Member Since: 15 Feb 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 26
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The bits that are wrong with mine are unchanged from the Td5, other than they have been welded p*ssed. LR seem to be struggling to assemble the sides vertically at the moment. I never really got as far as a meaningful conclusion on the new design parts, other than mine felt like it was misfiring at at low revs.
The resolution of what happens next is still unclear. The dealer has had it for a couple of days. Meanwhile I am down £26K and no car. Justifiably niggled I think. Unjustifiably I'd probably buy another, stupid as it sounds. Simon D |
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15th Feb 2008 3:28pm |
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| Daniel TD5 Member Since: 22 Jul 2007 Location: london Posts: 97 
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i agree my 07 110 double cab was at best crap at first its been in the dealer over eight weeks in total
ABS senors fault new clutch gear box oil leaks respray the rear end tail gate fell off 
alarm fault rear doors not closing under seal missing failed to start but i still love it if your ones bent then that can't be fixed but has the body has nothing to to with driving and as more flex build in than a bendy bus land rover will just flog it on to some one that is not in the know dan |
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15th Feb 2008 8:38pm |
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| simond Member Since: 15 Feb 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 26
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Got a new 2008 08 one now.
Panel alignment normal, eg: doors don't fit perfectly and front wings pi**ed but otherwise OK. Found an assortment of 14 spare (I hope) fasteners inc 2" bolts under the rear carpet, plus one 2" bolt placed in one of the front shock absorber turrets. If you buy one I may have your missing parts! Regarding my original blue misaligned model, there are others out there, mine was not the only one they made, I know this for a fact. So be very careful..... Simon D |
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7th Apr 2008 11:25am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5059 
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My 08 was obviously the exception - it was perfect alignment wise; no current issues except squeaking brakes im putting that down to being new - (well except somewhere between seeing it Saturday and buying it Friday someone had scratched the roof and gutter - which is now being fully repaired!)
I have to admit the underseal was partial at best but i spent a day doing it an afternoon adding to it and will spend another day in the next 2 weeks adding to it. I do wonder if there is anything else i should be looking for - underneath seems ok Mike |
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7th Apr 2008 3:06pm |
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| solmanic Member Since: 16 Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 191 
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It would have been good to see some photos. I am curious to see what the variations are from "bad enough to reject" to "bad but usual".
The rear corner LH side upper panel (the one with the sliding window) on my 110 is a bit skew-if. I notice it whenever I open or close the rear door as you can see the misalignment just where the top meets the tub near the latch. I thought about getting it seen to but the bottom line is - it doesn't leak, the doors all close properly, it's only out by a few mm and I wouldn't want to wait for them to sort it out. So meh! 2007 Defender 110 1970 Alfa Romeo 1750GTV |
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7th Apr 2008 11:25pm |
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| simond Member Since: 15 Feb 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 26
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If you have any underseal I believe yours is an earlier build.
The newest production do not have any, apparently LR believe that their chassis paint is now so good it doesn't need it. In principle this is the Kleentect argument; paint it properly and it doesn't need a sticky goo coating. However in practice mine has rust coming from the welds after 600 miles, it was built in Feb 08. Might get it waxoiled soon  Simon D |
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12th Apr 2008 2:14pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5059
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Its a bit of a rumour they do still come with it; but only in certain places so not even 50% coverage Mike |
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12th Apr 2008 3:04pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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I think the so called better rust prevention and so on announcement that Land Rover made late last year was to counter the number of people (including me) who took theirs back complaining of very patchy wax protection. I very much doubt they actually made any substantial changes.
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13th Apr 2008 9:34am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5059
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I think your correct - i waxoyled my own, and although its got dirty now, ill go back and continue to add more around when i fit the winch Mike |
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13th Apr 2008 9:36am |
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