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mega



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England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
somke on start up
Hi can anyone help . First thing in the morning when I start the engine I get a big ball of blue smoke, but is clear on start up the rest of the day ,2.4 puma 15,000 miles . Confused
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RobKeay



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Mine does that but it's more of a cloud. Don't know what causes it, would be interested to know.
Post #137257 5th Apr 2012 7:26pm
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The Musketeer



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Un-burnt fuel = injectors may need servicing Smile Good things come to the wild and free
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mega



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Hi Musketeer, I thought leeking fuel would produce black smoke ?
Post #137290 5th Apr 2012 8:44pm
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The Musketeer



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mega wrote:
Hi Musketeer, I thought leeking fuel would produce black smoke ?



It depends. Although blue smoke is often associated with oil leakage/problems when it is just on start up rather than all the time/gear changes especialy then it is normally some unburnt fuel left in the exhaust system or an injector problem.

Generally;

Blue = Fuel or Oil
Black = Oil
White = Water.


Sam
(All this comes from my old man, an agricultural engineer of 42 years that has owned, broken, fixed, built, made LRs since 1968) Good things come to the wild and free
Post #137302 5th Apr 2012 9:03pm
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mega



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Thanks for the info, could it be the turbo seals ?
Post #137313 5th Apr 2012 9:15pm
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rossy



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I believe a bit of smoke is normal. I've noticed the colder the weather the greater the volume of smoke. If its above 10 deg outside there's none. Maybe its the ECU dictating things based on temp. I have also seen this in 2 other Pumas and as mine seems to burn no oil whatsoever between changes I don't think its anything to be concerned about
Post #137321 5th Apr 2012 9:19pm
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mega



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Hi Rossy, the dealer said its normal but then he would Thumbs Up
Post #137327 5th Apr 2012 9:30pm
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WelshGas



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Definitely seems to be temperature related. Confused LANDYWATCH

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http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php
Post #137339 5th Apr 2012 10:10pm
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AndrewS



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Are you waiting for the glow plug light to go out before you start the engine ? 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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The Musketeer



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AndrewS wrote:
Are you waiting for the glow plug light to go out before you start the engine ?



When the temp is lower she needs more glow plug captain! Very Happy Good things come to the wild and free
Post #137341 5th Apr 2012 10:21pm
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RobKeay



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Maybe on a cold day it's worth doing the glow plugs twice. When I first got mine it used to knock like a Dutch girl in a basement. An ecu update sorted that. The blue smoke seems to have got worse and apart from yesterday the weather is getting warmer. Maybe there's another update.
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The Musketeer wrote:


Blue = Fuel or Oil
Black = Oil
White = Water.


Sam, think you have that wrong, on a Diesel engine it should be

Blue = Oil
Black = Fuel
White = Water Richard

Either a 90, 110 or 130.
Discovery 5
Post #137350 5th Apr 2012 11:48pm
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mega



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Here's a link to a video of my defender starting from cold with the glow plugs used twice clearly showing the blue cloud of smoke.

&feature=youtu.be Big Cry
Post #137416 6th Apr 2012 10:11am
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pom



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normal. Mine did the same.

Pom
Post #137421 6th Apr 2012 10:39am
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