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jof33 Member Since: 26 Nov 2011 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 53 |
New reg for MOT
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23rd Mar 2012 6:57pm |
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leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582 |
There is always lots of confusion about the law and vehicles.
What I suggest is you have a look at the MOT inspectors guidelines HERE Scroll down to section 6.6 which refers to tow bars. I have had a read of it and I can not see any reference to labels on tow bars. The stupid thing is that the MOT inspector is NOT allowed to remove a tow ball cover to inspect the condition of the towball! Just remember that vehicles which are N1 tax class which includes lots but not all Defenders do NOT need a type approved tow bar. Brendan |
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23rd Mar 2012 8:50pm |
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The Musketeer Member Since: 07 Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 193 |
Fantastic thanks Brendan. Happy days, I was wondering if it was true!
Sam Good things come to the wild and free |
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23rd Mar 2012 9:48pm |
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BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253 |
It's a DVLA thing, not an MOT thing (though MOT inspector will now look at the bolts to check they are high tensile). You do need to have a E approved plate on your hitch - VOSA are regularly stopping people now at weigh bridges and checking it. This isn't hearsay - a mate was recently stopped and given a warning about it recently as he just had a ball with no markings.
http://www.just-tow.co.uk/towbar-faq-and-039s.html |
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24th Mar 2012 7:48am |
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leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582 |
As I keep saying there is LOTS of confusion about motoring and towing laws. I have come across an instance when DVLA staff have given out incorrect information! As far as I understand it the relevant legislation is European type approval 94/20/EC for tow bars. According to www.NTTA.co.uk
According to www.justtow.co.uk
So my understanding is Type approved tow bar needs label Non type approved tow bar does NOT need label Cars since 1994 need type approval tow bars Commercials do NOT need type approval tow bars and do NOT need a label. Defenders since 1998 have been classed as both cars and commercials. The difference is in taxation class! If your Defender is taxed as M1 you will need a type approved tow bar. If your taxation class is N1 you do not need a type approval tow bar. According to DVLA
HTH Brendan PS Are you confused? |
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24th Mar 2012 11:01am |
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Pam W Member Since: 25 Oct 2011 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1169 |
It doesn't help the confusion when in the statement quoted by Brendan above they are using the M1 code when describing all vehicles after 1998.
I have a 1998 90 and the new red V5C and tax disc still have 'Private/Light Goods / PLG on them - no mention of N1 or M1 at this registration age. Our 2000 RR is the same too . I guess the N1 and M1 must have come in sometime after 2000 then, and just replace the old style categories that are more familiar to most of us. |
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24th Mar 2012 12:37pm |
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ibexman Member Since: 13 Dec 2008 Location: Essex Posts: 2945 |
Are 2" reciever hitches legal ???
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24th Mar 2012 4:29pm |
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leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582 |
Pam, if your 90 was first registered prior to 1/8/98 then you can legally use a non type approved tow bar.
If registered after 1/8/98 and was originally a hard top then it is a commercial hence non type approved tow bar is legal. If registered after 1/8/98 and was a 6 seater SW/CSW then the chances are it is non commercial and so type approval tow bar would be required. The legal status of Defenders is not helped with the way that Land Rover has managed to change taxation class for Defenders. New Defenders are considered to be commercial. Ibex, in general 2" receivers are NOT type approve towing equipment and are not sold as towbars but as 2"receiver with a drop plate. What the customer fits to the drop plate is their decision. However I know of at lease one company selling 2" receivers as quick detachable towbars! So 2" receiver fitted with towing equipment is legal if fitted to a car first registered prior to 1/8/98 or fitted to a commercial vehicle. Now has that clarified things or muddied the waters even further? Brendan Brendan |
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24th Mar 2012 8:27pm |
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EWS Member Since: 29 Nov 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 156 |
Interesting read this . Just had our truck tested ( ’06 Defender 90 County Hard Top) , and the tester informed me that the towbar data plate was about to depart, it’s a foil type ,stuck on thing( tow bar is a Land Rover OEM part) , can one get a replacment, or is one stuffed . Of course she passed, no problems.
Re the taxation class and the muddied waters, ours is in the taxation class as “Disabled” as its my partners, ( she is a Teraplegic)I run a ’91 vintage Fourtrak and no problems with towbar data plates. |
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13th Apr 2012 9:57pm |
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JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 |
I'm keeping a close watch on this thread, my 2002 110 SW has had the stickers fall off I've managed to find one and it now resides in the cubby box. It did leave a barely readable mark on the tow bar frame which is a bit of a PITA as I've tidied up the X member but the two stays on which the stickers reside are quite obvious in a Land Rover rusty sort of way
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13th Apr 2012 10:19pm |
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chiefstoker Member Since: 11 Oct 2010 Location: Weston-super-Mud Posts: 897 |
Presumably the identification issue only becomes a possible problem if stopped by VOSA. I would imagine removal of the actual tow hitch prior to the MoT should suffice for a test pass if you are worried about your M1 vehicle? I too have a sticker missing from the actual towing frame but have a Dixon Bate plated hitch. I wouldnt want to use an el cheapo hitch myself tbh so if you havent got a type approved hitch I would suggest changing it anyway. 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top
Beer 'n Sex 'n Chips 'n Gravy |
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14th Apr 2012 5:28am |
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lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006 |
Not that it affects me as I'm a pickup but how do NATO pintles fit into the above discussion? Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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17th Apr 2012 6:10pm |
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leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582 |
Assuming you are referring to the Dixon Bates Light or Medium pintle then according to the Bradley website HERE then they do not have an EC number and hence will not be type approved towing equipment.
Since they are designed for military vehicles I will make the following assumptions. They are not fitted to cars so type approved towing equipment not required. Also I would assume for UK military vehicles crown exemption will apply. So non type approved then standard towing equipment regulations would apply as discussed above. Brendan |
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17th Apr 2012 6:28pm |
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Kev stephenson Member Since: 27 Feb 2012 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 56 |
He asked about draw bars not tow bars. I assume he means the bar used when towing another vehicle and not the 50mm ball attached to the back of your truck on which you put your trailer hitch. 2005 110 TD5 XS running Alive Stage 1 and a bit and other toys
1996 130 300TDi chip truck for tree surgery business |
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17th Apr 2012 9:16pm |
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