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won't start. It will turn but won't fire. Not trying it again as the battery is going flat. Anyone else experiencing problems in this cold snap?
| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20413  
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Had a bit of a lazy start the other day. I keep absolutely everything turned off until engine is started and also start immediately after glow plug light extinguishes. I noticed that if you just leave the ignition on for a minute or two before starting that can cause it to just turn over
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3rd Feb 2012 11:01am |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897  
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I have a problem on my TD5 with the voltage drop being too much for the fuelpump relay.
It chatters instead of locking on.  |
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3rd Feb 2012 11:05am |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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I had a non start on Wednesday morning, that was due to me leaving my inverter on untill midnight, I let the dogs out before I went to bed and the low voltage alarm was going off
 As I couldn't be asked to faff about at that time of night with a charger plus when it's happened before it's still started the following day but this time the cold took over. 20 mins on the charger and it fired up straight away, I think the winching drain on Sundays pay and play with my local club had pulled down the battery and only doing school run trips hasn't given it enough to top off the battery.
Been fine this morning, no problems at all  |
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3rd Feb 2012 11:26am |
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| Nick T Member Since: 29 May 2011 Location: Bolton Posts: 203 
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Well at least it started this morning, after 3-4 turns of the engine
 lots of white smoke and a plastic type smell??? Lumpy idling till warm. |
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4th Feb 2012 4:39pm |
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| wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581
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You can find that if the temperature sensor is not working, then the powertrain ecu won't fuel correctly, or run the correct engine start strategy. The Puma will use the air intake temperature which is part of the MAF.
However, yours sounds more like a glow plug issue. Possible circuit fault (unburnt fuel - white smoke and burning plastic smell...) or vehicle may need an up-to-date powertrain ECU software download. |
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4th Feb 2012 5:02pm |
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| Nick T Member Since: 29 May 2011 Location: Bolton Posts: 203
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Had LR assist out yesterday. After fitting jump leads it still didn't start as it should. Tested battery, supply to glow plugs etc. Outcome was "see how you go on tomorrow morning". Bit knarked really-"what if's" don't get me to work!!
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4th Feb 2012 5:29pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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With the current extreme cold on continental Europe, (well below -10°C), if the glow plugs are properly working, the best solution is to turn on the contact and wait til the light goes out, quickly turn contact off and on again which means a 2nd round of preheating, and once the light goes out for the 2nd time, start the engine.
That definitely helps and is a generally recommended solution. Always provided the glowplugs are in good condition of course. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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4th Feb 2012 7:03pm |
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| wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581
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Nick, my 10MY struggles in the cold to run properly once started. Takes about 10 seconds or a blip on the throttle to get it running as it should. Not really an issue as far as I am concerned, and I also know it is running correctly as I regularly have it plugged into IDS/SDD.
I suppose you can always ask the wife to pull you along with her Td5? |
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4th Feb 2012 7:09pm |
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