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rossy



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fitted new speakers and aaarrgh !
well having read all the threads on stereo upgrades I thought I'd start by replacing just the speakers. I got these Ripspeed RS102s from Halfords which, although only 10cm had massive magnets behind them (as big as the speakers in fact) and,with great reviews on the 'net I thought they must surely be better than the OE ones.

I carefully lined the area behind them with butyl and foam (as other threads have advised) and they sound......rubbish ! The crappy OE ones are better - not as clear but bassier and louder - surely this can't be right.

Then to add more bother I think I've blown the left channel when using an ipod. I did test them with a blast of 'Alestorm' (Scottish 'pirate'metal band) and the left channel just fizzled out - it works fine on radio and CD mode but only right hand channel on aux - have I screwed something up ??

The maxim 'if it ain't (that) broke don't fix it is ringing louder than Alestorm in my ears at the moment ! Mad
Post #120744 2nd Feb 2012 9:24pm
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GREENI



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(note to self...google alestorm)

Ahem, where were we?
Oh yeah, I did the same, did that, waisted money!
Buy a nice head unit, and fit some bigger speakers somehwere, if you can, squeeze an amp and sub in somewhere Thumbs Up
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XS Pete



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Could be a dodgy lead or connection between the ipod and the head unit, or could be a dodgy ipod. I repaired an ipod for someone over Christmas with a similar fault. There was a broken joint on the tiny board which the headphone socket is mounted to. You could make it work sometimes by wiggling the lead.

Pete
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Lishlandy



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Check the balance (left and right) to see that nothing has been changed, I've done it too many time where I jump to the conclusion that it's broken, when in fact it's just that the settings are wrong. Also take out and plug back in the audio aux lead, when it isn't in properly or doesn't have it the whole way in then it can just play out into one side of speakers.

Is a pity it hasn't turned out well for you, I changed all mine to alpine 10cm's and apart from an overlap in the plastic edging to the standard speaker cover it fits fine and works beautifully, only issue I had was the rear lighting loom part got in the way of the left rear speaker on my 90 so had to fasten it up with cable ties.

I do find that the standard Stereo is not the most reliable, I changed mine after it refused to give me back my CD displaying an error code so ripped the Censored out and put in a Bluetooth Sony one which is much better.

Good luck ===================================
Steve
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ken



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As the others have said

Start with the Head Unit with a Decent Amp unless you want to have an exteral Amp if so buy a corsa Wink

My Route was

Change front speakers to Focal High & Mids

HU is a Kenwood Media player no CD so the units is not as deep more room behind for wires

I have a 110 so I made some rear boxes and installed 6*9 oval Focal Mid & Low

Installed an Active Sub (Focal) proper size not an under the seat job

I will in time up the speaker wires but the sound puts most of the Gary boys to Shame
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bpman



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I have the same issue when I plug my CB into the aux channel; the problem is it's a mono plug, double check the plug and lead.

HTH

bp
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Are you certain the polarity of the speakers was right? That might account for the rubbish tinny quality. Easy mistake. 2016 D4 HSE

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Marius



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Alpine all the way!!!!!!

Head unit and sub, but I stayed with alpine 4'' speakers. They put out plenty!!! Didnt wana retrofit bigger speakers.
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I too upgraded the head unit with an Alpine, put in a sub and stayed with the original speakers. Once done I found the original speakers sounded ok and could handle a reasonable amount of volume once you'd taken the bass away from them.

Stu
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rossy



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thanks everyone

RRUK I thought at first it might be the polarity as the LR speakers are not marked but usually the narrower of the two connectors is the negative one so I followed that arrangement

Looks like I might have to spend some cash on a head unit then. Thanks for the suggestions all
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custom90



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You can very easily check the positive and negative using a multimeter Voltage setting Thumbs Up That's what I did with mine anyway:

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rossy



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I've got a multimeter somewhere but I wouldn't have a clue as to how to check which terminals are + or -. How exactly do you do that konabikes if thats not too dim a question ? Embarassed
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If its a digital multimeter, put the red and black leads from the meter into the speaker connections, dosent matter which one or which way around, just put one lead in one connection and one lead in the other.

Put meter on DC volts (if scaled under 50V should be fine)

If you get -4.4V (for instance) your the wrong way around - i.e. your black wire is + and your red wire is - or vice a versa.

If your meter is analogue, and its the wrong way around, the needle will try to go the otherway, reverse the leads and your there.
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rossy



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thanks Paul I'll try that
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custom90



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As Paul above said. Quite simply I would have thought negative - would give no reading at all. positive + should. And also make sure radio is on and playing something Laughing Thumbs Up
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