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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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oh yes,.... and they have about doubled the number of speeding/red light cameras in the Geneva area since you left.
And the minimum speed ticket price which you get for exceeding the limit by not more than 10 km/hr, so with 5km/hr allowance it means a ticket for doing 56-60 km/hr in a 50 km/hr zone, used to be 5 years ago 40 chf which made you...  ... or in the best case ...  ..., but now is 120 chf which make you ... 
That all said, I haven't had a ticket anymore since I drive the Defender, but I really do believe that the Puma 2.4 are better off when treated gentle than when pushed. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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20th Jan 2012 5:00am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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I've not been caught in the defender, when we were in CH, we had a Q5 as well, and that seemed to be attracted to cameras
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20th Jan 2012 7:15am |
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| Merlin Member Since: 30 Oct 2010 Location: Newmarket Posts: 981 
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Drive it like a company car.
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20th Jan 2012 4:57pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5013
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Or a Freelander courtesy car.
 Quicker you get to your destination the quicker you can get out of the thing  |
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20th Jan 2012 6:16pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363 
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Yet another blinkered view by Zag... the FL2 IS the most reliable Land Rover model ever made. I almost bought a Discovery4 Commercial and was given the stats from a LR franchise owner. Maybe FL2 isn't Zaggable enough but they are well known to keep the owners happy and we will see how long Zags 110 lasts before the critisisms start... or have they already?? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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20th Jan 2012 6:35pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5013
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 Had a bad day Red Bot? Wish I was blinkered...walking up to it |
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20th Jan 2012 6:55pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101  
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FL2s are good. BUT they are marred by the FL1 Gayander. plus there not a real landrover! |
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20th Jan 2012 7:40pm |
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| robpenrose Member Since: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Hampshire or Cornwall Posts: 338
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A FL could be the best car in the world but I wouldn't buy one... Current:D4 HSE
Gone: BMW Z4MC Gone: Defender TD5 90 CSW Previous: Discovery TD5 ES (Gone) |
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20th Jan 2012 8:19pm |
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| rossy Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Co. Roscommon Posts: 1296  
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I always found that with previous cars they were always livelier and more economical for a few days after towing the caravan. I expect the Defender will be the same. As with humans a good workout seems to clear the cobwebs
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20th Jan 2012 8:37pm |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195
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 Who did yo work for then Greeni i did the same course for 4 yrs driving for Cox plant hire after they took over LPH Equipment the instructor used to loose his head at me changing down using the exhaust brake and gears to slow down, "modern trucks have hi tech brake systems use them to slow down then select the gear you want to continue in" Sorry  try crossing Milton Keynes quickley in an artic and see how much brakes you have left before half way across, and a small fire at each wheel by the time you have finished, and i certainly would not use my brakes all the way down the "Autoroute Blanc" from the Mont Blanc tunnel whole world of brake fade if you get that wrong doing Convoy Exceptional at 80Tonnes. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.
Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive No Worries 4X4 |
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20th Jan 2012 9:41pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101
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i love the sound of the engine brake!
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20th Jan 2012 9:43pm |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195
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Wish they would fit one to the Defender old habits die hard !! Volvo FH12'2 have a 4 position swich for different strengths 4 nearly puts you through the windscreen no need for the middle pedal unless someone pulls out on you or to actually stop the thing. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough. Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive No Worries 4X4 |
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20th Jan 2012 9:46pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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They used to put an exhaust brake on the bigger Fendt tractors, didn't half help with around 24tonnes of wheat rumbling down the road
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20th Jan 2012 9:59pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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Can't beat an ERF with a round the clock box or a Daf 2800 with a straight cut box never fooked a change going up shap or the Dublin by dawn run via Holyhead
 Conway arch always fun  |
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20th Jan 2012 10:19pm |
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