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Is there any need to use a Shocklink when towing with a Defender? With the Defender's suspension being stiffer than eurobox cars, I wonder if they are a good idea. But at £400 each im hoping you all say "no" Shocked




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Post #116319 17th Jan 2012 9:23pm
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I wouldn't have thought so unless you plan to go greenlaning with the caravan at the back !
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Not being pedantic or anything but, let me get it straight, with these DB Shocklink adapters to my understanding take out what forces on the hitch? Now when I think of how a caravan is hitched to a tow vehicle then any shock loading being transferred from the trailer to the tow vehicle has to go through a shock absorber that is fitted anyway, it's called the overun brake!
Post #116331 17th Jan 2012 9:47pm
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Only need to consider it if you're a Series towing an aluminium chassis 'van.
Post #116333 17th Jan 2012 9:49pm
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JWL wrote:
Not being pedantic or anything but, let me get it straight, with these DB Shocklink adapters to my understanding take out what forces on the hitch? Now when I think of how a caravan is hitched to a tow vehicle then any shock loading being transferred from the trailer to the tow vehicle has to go through a shock absorber that is fitted anyway, it's called the overun brake!

A Shockline damps vertical shocks rather than horizontal. As Laurie says though, they're more applicable to leaf sprung Series Land Rovers. They're also popular amongst folks towing horse boxes, as they give a better ride for the expensive cargo. Darren

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Post #116348 17th Jan 2012 10:12pm
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I allways did wonder, granted vertical loads could figure, as you say horse box tuggers may think that they are cushioning the trip for the dobbin but less of an issue nowadays with twin axles. One thing I would say is that the one in the picture is only rated to a hitch loading(nose weight) of, if I can see correctly, 80kg. My laat caravan was reccomended to have a higher weight and I'm sure that most horseboxes wouldexcwed that aa well
Post #116376 17th Jan 2012 11:08pm
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I allways did wonder, granted vertical loads could figure, as you say horse box tuggers may think that they are cushioning the trip for the dobbin but less of an issue nowadays with twin axles. One thing I would say is that the one in the picture is only rated to a hitch loading(nose weight) of, if I can see correctly, 80kg. My laat caravan was reccomended to have a higher weight and I'm sure that most horseboxes wouldexcwed that aa well
Post #116378 17th Jan 2012 11:09pm
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Laurie wrote:
If anything, a Ninety tows better than a One-Ten.
The shorter distance from the rear axle to the towhitch makes the tail less likely to wag the dog.


A 110 is a far better tow vehicle due to the extra wheelbase over a 90,,

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Post #116381 17th Jan 2012 11:25pm
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i agree the longer wheel base on a 110 makes it far better for towing than a 90 Cheers

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Post #116382 17th Jan 2012 11:29pm
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WarPig wrote:
Thanks Laurie. Think I might end up upgrading to something like the Bradley hitch that Lorryman is using.


I just ordered the Dixon Bate one that Zag has to give more clearance from the cross member and the spare wheel. I'm hoping that as the Winterhoff's actuator arm is set farther back, and with the addition of this DB tow jaw the back door can remain closed whilst hitching up. Thumbs Up




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That makes sense Brian. I dont have my spare wheel on the rear door so I guess its not such an issue for me. I assume that apart from the spare wheel clearance issue, yours would otherwise be OK? So is your Bradley towball up for sale Brian Whistle

I see Bradley have acquired the trading name of Dixon Bate

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Post #116509 18th Jan 2012 4:27pm
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Hopefully I am picking the van up from the dealers at the end of next week as they have still to fit the roof mounted satellite. I was going to then interchange between the tow balls and see what one in my mind would be best, I could then offer you first refusal the other one? Though chances are I would keep both and use the Bradley one in the winter as it is smaller and not as sticky outey as the DB one. Thumbs Up


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A wise decision. Real men have two (tow)balls. Mr. Green

I bought a 2nd hand Nemesis wheel clamp from ebay today. Its a big heavy beast but will be ideal for use whilst my vans in storage. Might get a lighter clamp for use when touring.




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Lorryman100 wrote:
WarPig wrote:
Thanks Laurie. Think I might end up upgrading to something like the Bradley hitch that Lorryman is using.


I just ordered the Dixon Bate one that Zag has to give more clearance from the cross member and the spare wheel. I'm hoping that as the Winterhoff's actuator arm is set farther back, and with the addition of this DB tow jaw the back door can remain closed whilst hitching up. Thumbs Up




Brian.


Do you think you'll need the extra height of the neck for the Winterhoff hitch Brian?



My current towball is exactly the same as above but has the shorter neck, but if I read the specs on the Winterhoff site correctly it looks as though the lower / shorter neck may be ok


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