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T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 |
its only an old transit engine!
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28th Dec 2011 1:20pm |
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Jammer600 Member Since: 27 Feb 2011 Location: Bath/Warminster Posts: 306 |
Ha ha that it is!! Has got a gert big bit of metal hanging off the back to carry round know though
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28th Dec 2011 2:04pm |
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dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 |
Combination of three things lead to metal - metal contact (oil-film breakdown) and subsequent bearing wear and failure: (1) High torque (2) Low RPM (3) Low HTHS viscosity Diesel engines have higher torques at lower RPMs and require higher HTHS viscosity in order to prevent metal - metal contact. Through the engine wear tests using an radioisotope tracer technique, it was clarified that an HTHS viscosity of 2.6 mPa¥s was the lower limit to prevent the increasing wear. It was also found that the influence of the lowering viscosity on the wear of piston rings was larger than that on the wear of the cams and connecting rod bearings. Watch the following figure Click image to enlarge You could play here http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin...index.html this evening more infos Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition IID Pro MV License |
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29th Dec 2011 10:52am |
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T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 |
i have no idea what your on about but i like the spiders web thing :thumbsup: Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated |
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29th Dec 2011 12:18pm |
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Bearcat Member Since: 09 Dec 2011 Location: Dublin Posts: 57 |
Pikey proof or not, there is a layer within the defender community that look with distain at the "pikey" engine. I've had td5s and even a v8 hyrid 90 which was great crack but not as a daily. I've had my puma over 2 months now.......I have zero complaints. That six speed box is what I wanted when I had my td5.....motorway traveling is not a boom boom high rpm affair likewise I can now glow with the intense heat from the heating system as against a battle of when will this girl warm up up.......happy as clam here. I have no intention of chipping it either, loads of mid range punch....previous td5 I sent to allisport.......not this time around.........maybe age has caught up with me! |
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29th Dec 2011 10:54pm |
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Axel Member Since: 22 Jun 2011 Location: Bochum Posts: 107 |
Planning on using CASTROL Magnatec 5W-30 A1 ..... Would this also be okay for a new Td4 2.2 ??? Best Regards,
Axel |
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30th Dec 2011 10:32am |
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MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2411 |
Nope. You need an oil meeting the WSS M2C 934B spec. Low SAPS, having a C ACEA spec.
Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow C1 5W-30 or whatever local name has in your country. Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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30th Dec 2011 11:04am |
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Axel Member Since: 22 Jun 2011 Location: Bochum Posts: 107 |
THANKS ... just what I expected ... probably because of the DPF .... Best Regards,
Axel |
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30th Dec 2011 11:12am |
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wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581 |
https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...%20JLR.pdf
This is the Engine Oils list from the Vehicle Specification Book that JLR now have available on TOPIx. It does get changed/updated from time to time, so it isn't just set in concrete and it does get changed from time to time. My personal take is, yes, oil is oil, but you are better off using the right one right down to the brand and type. I tend to use the Castrol products on the later vehicles, but I may use a slightly cheaper 5w30 oil which is still within the Ford specification for the older vehicles from Td5 back, but even this is a branded oil (Total Quartz). Not so much with engine oils (more diff/trans), but I get reps visiting me telling me they have an 'equivalent' oil which gets me annoyed because usually it isn't - It's sales talk for 'It's close but cheaper'. A 75w90 oil is the same as another 75w90 EXCEPT for the additives the gearbox was designed around. I wouldn't use it on my vehicles so why would I want to use it on a customer's vehicle... |
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30th Dec 2011 12:18pm |
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Axel Member Since: 22 Jun 2011 Location: Bochum Posts: 107 |
Thanks ...
So I should be okay with this stuff here?? http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/produkt...db=web.nsf Specifications and approvals: ACEA C1-08 JASO DL-1 Ford WSS-M2C 934-B TECHNICAL DATA Viscosity class : 5W-30 Density at +15 °C : 0.850 g/cm³ DIN 51757 Viscosity at +40 °C : 53.5 mm²/s DIN 51562 Viscosity at +100 °C : 10 mm²/s DIN 51562 Viscosity index : 177 DIN ISO 2909 Flash point : 228 °C DIN ISO 2592 Pour point : - 36 °C DIN ISO 3016 ASTM color number : 3 DIN 51578 HTHS viscosity : >2,9 mPas ASTM D 4683 Total Base Number : 6,0 mg KOH/g DIN ISO 3771 Best Regards, Axel |
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30th Dec 2011 1:04pm |
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MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2411 |
Almost water, but yes. That is the one you need. Very good brand. Puma 110" SW
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30th Dec 2011 1:08pm |
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Axel Member Since: 22 Jun 2011 Location: Bochum Posts: 107 |
Thanks! Best Regards,
Axel |
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30th Dec 2011 1:20pm |
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ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 |
Just see this thread now, and it relates to my todays started thread about gearbox, transfer case and differentials oil changes for a 2008 Puma, so what would be helpful would be the following: Do you also have the up to date Topix Oil list for a Puma Defender for gearbox oil, transfer case oil and for the differentials? Tks in advance, Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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1st Jan 2012 9:42pm |
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wslr Member Since: 18 Jul 2010 Location: Wellington, Somerset Posts: 581 |
Eric - Here you go. Defender is the last page again.
https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...icants.pdf |
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1st Jan 2012 10:52pm |
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