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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
whats the clutch fluid level like? Cheers

James
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Glynparry25 wrote:
LR90XS2011 wrote:
if thats the clutch bell housing then I would suspect the engine crank shaft oil seal . like Feteke states I wouldnt worry but keep an eye on it and the oil levels, if it is engine oil check that all the breathers are clear and the crank case is not pressurising (noticable pressurised air flow out of the filler cap when removed with engine running)


Clutch fluid- All clutch items (which contain oil) are on the outside of the bell housing therefore there shouldn't be any clutch fluid inside there.



Glyn there is a slave cylinder inside the bell housing that can leak clutch fluid Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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fekete wrote:

Glyn there is a slave cylinder inside the bell housing that can leak clutch fluid Thumbs Up


Shocked Just checked and you are right!!.... So I have thought back to the past 13 years or working on vehicles and realised that I have never in that time changed a slave cylinder on a Land Rover..... Just loads of regular cars.

So, add to the checks.... Clutch fluid. Any mechanic would be able to tell the difference in about 3 seconds whether it is engine oil of clutch fluid. So a quick pop down to see one would clear that up.

Glyn Dog Sheep
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On the td5 it was on the out side Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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fekete wrote:
On the td5 it was on the out side Thumbs Up


Every day is a school day Mr. Green

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Laughing Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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Clutch fluid is (very) full, so if its that then it must be loosing very.
Saying that I don't appear to be loosing engine oil ,
Will keep an eye on both.

Otherwise will leave, until Next time I go to the garage, I'll get them to check it and fix ... Will report back Smile
(assuming it doing no further damage, or is not going to suddenly let go... and leave me stranded somewhere)
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jst



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what can look like a lot of oil/fluid can in fact not really be much in the scheme of things. our 200tdi leaks from the rear engine oil seal enough to mean the chassis back from there will never rust but you dont see a noticeable change in engine oil level over the 12mths between changes (about 4k miles) Cheers

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To replace or repair the clutch slave cylinder - if it's inside the bell housing, is it a gearbox out to fix this?
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jst



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no, you can do it in situ, the slave will come out complete, just make sure the plastic collar comes with it! Cheers

James
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90 2010 Hardtop
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You are correct Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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How do you actually get to it if it's in the bell housing?
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jst



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making a wild assumption that the puma one is similar to a tdi - (and i havent checked microcat on this) but if that the case the slave is bolted to the outside of the bellhousing but protrudes through and into the bell housing. undo the bolts and extract it. Cheers

James
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Post #108832 20th Dec 2011 9:25pm
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Just another thing for technoBear....I I discovered again, that my Puma had further oily looking material in the same spot......but this time I have found my vehicle's issue. The nipple on the front of the prop shaft was firstly loose, secondly had lost the ball bearing in it's end. It was spraying a swath of honey coloured like stuff (thin oil) - on the chassis rail and in direct line with this lower part of the bell housing. I tightened the nipple, wrapped electrical tape around the nipple just to be sure, cleaned it all up - problem found and "fixed". I'll get it sorted next service.

Maybe if your mechanic is stumped, look into this for yours. Wink
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Could the OP maybe give us an update on this please? I've now found that I had 2 problems. I've replaced the nipple that was throwing a liquid grease substance, but there is oil seeping from the same spot - mainly evident after the vehicle sits for a while.

I'd like to know what the mechanic found on yours TB!
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