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Betsy

Member Since: 05 Aug 2024
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 24

Water storage

Good evening
I’m looking at options for water storage ideas for my 110 camper, originally I was thinking water storage under the rear wheel arch to make use of the space, and then a pump to a tap inside. However after watching Boris the defender on YouTube, I’m thinking a 15/20l litre bottle inside, this will avoid the water freezing and is easier for maintaining, I would then opt for a whale hand pump tap to avoid unnecessary drainage of the 2nd battery, and this could be mounted straight onto the bottle.
Has anyone done similar, one concern is condensation building up on the outside of the bottle and dripping everywhere, as I currently keep a litre of water in the under seat storage and that condensates, this may be due to the diesel heater.
Is there any other pros and cons
Thanks

14th Feb 2025 10:11pm

Betsy

Member Since: 05 Aug 2024
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 24

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Like this

14th Feb 2025 10:13pm

macfrank

Member Since: 05 Nov 2015
Location: somewhere in the north
Posts: 1110

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

That's a nice interior. We went for Hunersdorff canisters with tap. Usually we carry a 10 litre but I've made the box/holder so that a 22l also fits (2nd picture). For us a pump and sink is unnecessary.
We've never had condensation there, even when it was dripping from the ceiling

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15th Feb 2025 7:38am

revd

Member Since: 20 Apr 2024
Location: England
Posts: 216

20L with tap from Front Runner, haven’t decided where to site it yet but will be inside and as close to the floor as possible to keep the weight low down.

15th Feb 2025 8:20am

34064

Member Since: 12 Dec 2023
Location: South Central
Posts: 225

I have the dometic 11 water jug and tap works pretty well and I keep a 20l life saver jerry can on the side 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day

Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784

15th Feb 2025 3:26pm

Betsy

Member Since: 05 Aug 2024
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 24

macfrank wrote:
That's a nice interior. We went for Hunersdorff canisters with tap. Usually we carry a 10 litre but I've made the box/holder so that a 22l also fits (2nd picture). For us a pump and sink is unnecessary.
We've never had condensation there, even when it was dripping from the ceiling

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That’s good new, I was concerned about it getting everything dam, thanks

15th Feb 2025 4:32pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8201

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

I have a front runner one on rear passenger arch external, filled internally with external tap through rear x member. You could draw from it internally with whale submerged hand pump. Cheers

James
110 2010 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

15th Feb 2025 6:56pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8201

https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/u...xwQAvD_BwE Cheers

James
110 2010 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

15th Feb 2025 6:57pm

macfrank

Member Since: 05 Nov 2015
Location: somewhere in the north
Posts: 1110

We only get condensation on bare metal surfaces and windows. I guess this is partly because they're getting a few degrees cooler that the interior and partly because of their smooth surfaces where water drops form easier than on rough surfaces. Those canisters are not as smooth as a glass or PET bottle.

Carpets and roof lining can also get humid but you'll only notice when you touch them. Also our curtains help to buffer some of the night's humidity (they're about the only cotton fabric we have (fire protected)).

15th Feb 2025 7:17pm

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 570

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

macfrank wrote:
That's a nice interior. We went for Hunersdorff canisters with tap. Usually we carry a 10 litre but I've made the box/holder so that a 22l also fits (2nd picture). For us a pump and sink is unnecessary.

I also installed the 22L canister.
I installed the BOXIO portable sink, too, i.e. another 5L for dish washing
https://boxio.fr/en/products/evier-portable
... After all, almost 30L for cooking, washing, ...

In Africa, I add 2...4x 5L canisters of pure drinking water (on the roof)

I've been thinking about the Frontrunner 40L in the rear wheelbase. As for now, cleaning my canisters is straight forward - but Frontrunner would be better if I needed more empty space inside

15th Feb 2025 9:47pm

Lightwater

Member Since: 28 Jun 2020
Location: Sydney NB
Posts: 74

This is a Freelander:

In outback Australia we can only last as long as our water. That is the first thing to run out. Carry 2 x 10L, 8 x 5L plus quite a few small bottles. We have it as central & as low as possible. Sometimes we buy an additional couple of 10L disposable packs. We each can last on 2.5L per day.

We lined the car everywhere with acoustic foam. The added benefit is it stopped all the condensation, as we mostly sleep in the car which generates a lot of moisture simply from breathing.

Also cover all the windows with windscreen sunscreens cut to fit every window. That stopped pretty much most of the window condensation. Double thickness on windscreen.

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Ceiling with 25mm minimum to 45mm acoustic foam & polyester batts, they are thin.

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27th Mar 2025 11:56am

steveww

Member Since: 05 Jan 2022
Location: Malton
Posts: 584

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Bronze Green

I use the LifeSaver 20L jerry can.

https://iconlifesaver.com

Expensive but really useful. It has a pump and tap built in and the filter means you can fill it up anywhere, dodgy fuel station tap, river, lake, etc. I use this for drinking and cooking. I also have two 10L bladder tanks that I can use when I know water will be scarce, these pack up really small when not full.

https://seatosummit.co.uk/products/waterce...5090396434

1st Apr 2025 12:46pm

Screbble

Member Since: 26 Apr 2015
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2123

2004 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

That is excellent - notwithstanding the cost - a really good product 👍

1st Apr 2025 5:55pm

8619simon

Member Since: 05 Nov 2016
Location: North Wales
Posts: 255

1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green

Another vote for the Lifesaver jerrycan. Great bit of kit and the filter lasts for ages, had mine for over 6 years now. Fits perfectly on the rear wing.

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1st Apr 2025 10:03pm

wyvern

Member Since: 14 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2123

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

We have a safari equip 60ltr tank outside under the left side of the wagon with a small pump to a tap on the back door.
We use the vehicle all year and all over Europe and the UK.
in the last 4 yrs we have only had the water freeze once that stoped us using it, but we carry 3x 1.5 ltr water bottles in the vehicle during the winter for emergency use in this situation.
previously we had 15 ltr container in one of the units but it was not enough for more than a couple of days and had to be refilled frequently
hope that helps

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530-135.html Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126

2nd Apr 2025 9:19am

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