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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
TD5 clutch issue?
Last night on the way home and after a good run down the motorway, I noticed when I came to change gear the clutch pedal felt different, like there was more travel before the clutch pedal engaged?

Now it feels like the bite point is lower to the floor than it was before Sad

No issues earlier on in the journey or the day before.

Thoughts ? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062437 9th Mar 2025 10:26am
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Dinnu



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Already checked the clutch hydraulic fluid level? 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1062440 9th Mar 2025 11:28am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Hi Dinnu

That was my first thought but I hadn't checked before I posted the orginal quesiton.

I have since checked the fluid and that was low. I did top up and then attempted to bleed the clutch and initially, I got old dirty fluid out, the master cylinder seems to have stopped drawing in liquid and makes a squelching noise.

Also noticed during the up/down of the clutch pedal, the return spring had snapped on one side - which also won't help matters. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062451 9th Mar 2025 1:54pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
New master cylinder and LOF clutch spring on order.

All I get now when bleeding the clutch is the sound of air escaping from the bleed nipple and then fluid level does not drop. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062508 10th Mar 2025 10:04am
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jim4244



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Start doing thumb exercises and maybe take a few thumb steroids. Fitting the LOF clutch spring taught me the importance of thumb strength Rolling with laughter

Jim
Post #1062516 10th Mar 2025 12:16pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I recall having fun fitting the last spring. A lot of swearing was done! 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062519 10th Mar 2025 1:34pm
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Penfold_6290



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Swerving the topic to LOF clutch spring fitting, of which there are a thousand posts on this forum, one thing I found made the whole ordeal easier was to bend one of the spring retaining tabs out about 45 degrees to make the spring easier to locate, then bend it back once it's all together.
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I have the pedal box assembly out at the mo so I can replace the clutch master cylinder.. I am hoping its easier to install with the pedal box on the bench. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062616 11th Mar 2025 2:41pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
While I thought I had ordered a spring...What I really ordered was just the bushes Sad
Spring now on order and a slave cylinder as well. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062683 12th Mar 2025 9:28am
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Finally got the LOF spring fitted. It took quite some time trying to do it in the car. -
Master cylinder also fitted and bled.

Engine off, I can get gears but with engine running gears are a struggle to be able to be engaged, with some effort I can. I can get a bite, but its really close to the floor

I have just go a new slave cylinder.

Before all this kicked off, I could get gears ok but the bite did seem a bit lower than usual.

More bleeding?
Replace the slave ?
New clutch ?
Check bank balance? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #1062883 14th Mar 2025 1:06pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Found the post
https://www.defender2.net/forum/post855167.html

My pedal is about 160mm - level with the brake pedal almost.
I think I will have to adjust this. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062889 14th Mar 2025 1:47pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Ensure you have a bit of free play in the pedal. When you look through the pedal box cover, with the master dust cover off, the push rod should not be touching the piston inside the MC. This to ensure proper functioning of the non return valve.

Did you get power master? That has smaller bore, smaller displacement of fluid, and so slave will move less distance…. Might not be enough to release clutch.

From what you say, seems like you still have air, or possibly a problem with the flexible hose between bulkhead and slave on passenger side. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1062902 14th Mar 2025 3:24pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Hi Dinnu

Do you mean under the black cover?



Not checked if I have. Didn't know you could see with out taking apart?

I got a TRW / OEM Clutch master and also a TRW Slave (not fitted)
LOF PowerSpring

I am going to go for another bleed when the wife comes home. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062903 14th Mar 2025 3:41pm
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rustandoil



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Does this help?

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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Cheers, it does help. However mine is fitted and for me to test, I would need to remove again Sad 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #1062908 14th Mar 2025 4:08pm
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