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Rashers



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Also very surprised how poorly the 3.0 BMW diesel fared. Maybe the vehicle is just too heavy for it?
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pjm-84



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We have the 3l petrol engine in our X545e... sweet engine and very economical. 32 (80mph) to 37mpg (65mph) on a run with a dead flat battery..... and quick... that weighs in at 2.5 tonne....
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mwestcrew



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Rashers wrote:
Also very surprised how poorly the 3.0 BMW diesel fared. Maybe the vehicle is just too heavy for it?



The engine is obviously mapped differently to any car that I’ve driven with it previously. It’s possible that they just haven’t got it right. Maybe like the steering they don’t have the budget for continued development. 2011 130 Utility Body
2005 110 Van
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Rashers



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Is it just the weight of this vehicle?

It must weigh several bags of sugar more than an X5. It’s also not as aerodynamic. It’s got a lot more to do than any BMW that I can think of?

It could also be a really poor map.

Getting back to the long term test drive article, one thing that jumped out at me was the comment about Jim seeing a business opportunity after the old Defender was cancelled. I naively had assumed that this was a billionaires vanity project (Howard Hughes and the Spruce Goose style). If this comment is correct, I can’t see it will ever make a profit and Jim being the hard nosed businessman he is, will just kill it off. He’s made a point. He’s done what he said he was going to do. He won’t want to keep subsidising people to drive around in his companies 4x4.

But let’s get real about this, Jim isn’t the only person with a car manufacturer that’s losing money at the minute? Jim has the advantage is his core business is doing very nicely thank you and the likes of Volkswagen, Nissan and Stellantis don’t have that luxury to bail them out.
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blackwolf



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Does anyone know how easy it is to remap a BMW diesel, or a Grenadier?
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pjm-84



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Agree

However I think its the running gear and as the TG review says, lift off and its like it has regenerative braking, which of course it doesn't have. So the engine is having to work all the time.
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