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mptzs90



Member Since: 24 May 2024
Location: Kent
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 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
Rumbling / grinding from front driver side
Two issues which seem related, and I’m hoping the wisdom on here can diagnose!

1. Consistently when hitting 18-20mph there’s a rumbling and what feels like movement from the front driver’s side wheel arch. Stops a few seconds later. It sounds like there’s something loose and rotating…
Local defender garage checked the wheel and bearings and said they couldn’t find an issue but there’s definitely something wrong…

2. Going over a speed bump it’s vibration and sound coming from the drivers front arch again… very similar sound but louder.. it also feels like it’s grinding and something is rubbing. It’s not a good feeling and feels like it might grind to a halt! Can’t find any marks on the arches from rubbing of the wheel and this happens with the wheels straight or turning.

Any ideas before I drop it back to the garage for another look?
Post #1059046 30th Jan 2025 10:05pm
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jim4244



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Hmmm... From your description it does sound bearing related to me. Have you jacked the wheel up and checked movement top and bottom? There are 2 bearings an inner and an outer in the hub so if your garage just removed the drive flange to check they would have only seen the outer.

Do you have plenty of friction material on your brake pads? If they are very worn you can get a grinding noise where it is metal on metal.

Jim
Post #1059061 31st Jan 2025 3:32am
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mptzs90



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I haven’t done it myself but the garage told me they did and it was totally fine. That’s really helpful - sounds like I should either take a look myself or have them look more thoroughly.

How easy is this to do at home? I only have the bottle jack from under the seat - nothing more sophisticated to work with. Very happy to give it a go but haven’t checked bearings before.

Thanks as always
Post #1059064 31st Jan 2025 6:29am
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rustandoil



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Give it a go!
Level ground, Chock the rear wheels, handbrake on, and jack the suspect front wheel up with the jack on the axle. Only needs to be 2 inches off the ground

Check to see if there's any play in the wheel when trying to rock it top / bottom, you might even hear the rumble when you rotate it.

Have a look on YouTube there's plenty on there to guide.

Good luck, and let us know how you get on Thumbs Up
Post #1059066 31st Jan 2025 7:08am
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jim4244



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Remember - YouTube is your friend! Laughing

Just type in "check wheel bearings" and it will bring up a few videos showing you exactly how to check.

Jim
Post #1059067 31st Jan 2025 8:15am
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Johan_B



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Sounds similar to what I had this summer. In my case I couldn't really feel any play in the bearing and when rotating the wheel there was only minimal noise that was hard to separate from a brake pad slightly touching the disc. But when I drove it it made the sound of a duck. Yes, a duck!
It turned out one of the rollers had seized or partially seized. That bearing was also rusty, but the other one looked fine.

To get into the hub and bearings you'll need:
13 mm bi-hex socket for brake caliper
17 mm socket for drive member bolts
Circlip plier helps
52 mm socket for hub nut
Depending on your seize and strength, a long enough breaker bar.
Torque wrench to get it all together again.
Post #1059070 31st Jan 2025 9:00am
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mptzs90



Member Since: 24 May 2024
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Some shopping to do then! Mine doesn't sound like a duck (!? Duck )... it's a lot more like rolling thunder when I hit 18mph and then stops a few moments later. The speed bump sound is much worse and like a grinding...
Post #1059072 31st Jan 2025 9:07am
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Johan_B



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Start by just lifting the wheel and rock/rotate it to check for movement or sound. You can take it off and remove the brake pads as well to eliminate that source of sound. When rotating a good hub it should be smooth and without noise. If it is not smooth, then there is your problem.

If rocked at 12/6 o'clock you could also feel movement due to bad swivel bearings (guess how I know) so you might want to verify where the movement is coming from if that is the case.

I think most members here will tell you to give it a go yourself as changing wheel bearings is perfectly doable. However, since you write that all you have is a bottle jack, I would like to confirm if that is really all you have? If you don't have any other tools and maybe don't plan to be the primary care giver to your Landy, but will continue to use the local garage, then you may as well return to them for this job.

Did they test drive it? If so, what did they say about it? Other than that the bearings was fine.
Post #1059086 31st Jan 2025 10:26am
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mptzs90



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Only a bottle jack in terms of lifting and that’s something I plan to remedy- plenty of other tools and happy to give this a go. They checked a while ago and I’m not sure if they drove it… they said they didn’t hear the issue though. It’s odd in that it seems to “bed in” after a a few mins driving, so it seemsmuch worse when you set off. When the rain stops I’ll jack it up and try wobbling it to see what I can find out. Thanks again
Post #1059088 31st Jan 2025 10:32am
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