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Chicken Drumstick

Member Since: 17 Aug 2020
Location: Near MK
Posts: 785

Retroanaconda wrote:
850 litres more load space but no increase in payload?

90 Dreamer wrote:
Needs 1000kg+ to make HMRC ‘commercial status’ so seems a waste of time…..??

Umm aren't you both missing some fairly obvious facts.

GVW is capped by EU and UK legislation.... removing items from a vehicle won't alter this hard limit.

2 seats and a bit of cab are not going to impact the curb weight of the vehicle to an great extent. So it is impossible to increase the payload unless UK law changes or Ineos can defeat physics to reduce the curb weight without sacrificing the spec of the vehicle.

21st Jan 2025 6:16pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2687

Weird response. I never suggested the GVW be increased, I merely thought it odd that the removal of some components has not resulted in an increased payload through reduced unladen weight.

I can only guess that the amount was not enough to take it over the threshold of being worth the hassle of re-certification etc. at the new weight.

21st Jan 2025 7:10pm

Hairy Dan

Member Since: 25 Apr 2013
Location: NW Durham
Posts: 1426

1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Chawton White

spudfan wrote:
Rashers wrote:
Just on the subject of one seat versions, Post Office Telecommunications used to buy extremely basic vans back in the day with only one drivers seat. Larger commercial vans were also known to only come with a single seat. Haven’t seen anything like this since the 1970’s.

I remember many years the work vans supplied by the company I worked for, only had a seat for the driver (and no radio!). They were only small vans like the Renault Kangoo today. When someone from the company came out for the day to do a time and motion study type of thing, they had to sit on a box placed in the passenger side. Ah yes those were the days!

I have a price list for Mini vans and pick ups from 1962, if you wanted a passenger seat it was an extra £7 10s0d and if you also wanted a heater that was £13 17s6d extra

Cheers Ian
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21st Jan 2025 11:21pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4731

Yeah, the company were buying the cheapest options! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

21st Jan 2025 11:28pm

Rashers

Member Since: 21 Jun 2015
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3539

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

My Mum had a Mini Van (1972). It had the luxury of a heater and a passenger seat but driver and passenger seat were not fixed to the ground on four points. They hinged at the front and if you didn’t wear a seatbelt and braked sharply, the seat lifted up.

As kids we would often ride in the back drawing on the condensation on the metal. No one died. Just as well we were never involved in an accident I suppose.

22nd Jan 2025 8:05am

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 532

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

o4dn wrote:
TexasRover wrote:
[…] now I live in France and it seems nothing fun is ever allowed. Everyone needs to live this set (restricted) life, fit in with the plebs while the fat cats are still enriching themselves.

OT, but… Sadly, so true…

Don't grief - just buy yourself a sailboat.

You won't even need a licence.

22nd Jan 2025 2:07pm

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