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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101   
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all of the above.
under steer into over steer into the hedge 
slow in fast out....bit like sex really! |
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8th Dec 2011 6:05pm |
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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670  
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In a very old 90 with 265/75R16 mud pluggers on when its snowing with ice under you get oversteer. A 110 my be different with there being more weight on the back axle but i would say the same thing would happen, just need to push it more before the back end makes a bid for freedom! lol.
Pete |
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8th Dec 2011 6:12pm |
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| twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 655 
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Depends if you have anti-roll bars.
Rear ARB only = oversteer (lift-off, which would be pretty hard to achieve in a Defender) Front ARB only = understeer Both/no ARBs = the wonderfully balanced normal handling of a Defender 
I did try to get my old 90 to slide on a roundabout in the wet (on private land, officer). It did eventually 4-wheel drift, but only once the body had rolled so much that you could only see tarmac out the left-hand window  |
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8th Dec 2011 6:55pm |
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| Lukey Boy Member Since: 10 Jun 2011 Location: Norwich Posts: 122 
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I did wonder about the 4 wheel slide as I watched a clip on you tube - fastest defenders - but as you can imagine none of them appeared to have standard suspension. 2008 110 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
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8th Dec 2011 8:29pm |
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| DefenderOfTheEarth Member Since: 09 Nov 2010 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1304 
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I've drifted mine before but it's pretty hairy. Not recommended.
They do grip surprisingly well though. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion. |
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8th Dec 2011 8:51pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 883  
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Recently saw the following sticker on a trials car (not strictly accurate, but fun):
Understeer = You see the wall you’re gonna hit Oversteer = You don’t see the wall you’re gonna hit Horsepower = How fast you hit the wall Torque = How much of the wall you take with you Peter |
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8th Dec 2011 9:16pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5871 
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I find you can get over, or under steer depending on the speed and amount of volume you are exerting.
Four wheel drifting is a great hobby and well worth a practice. But don't worry your bum will fail way before it tips over, I have tried
Andy |
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8th Dec 2011 10:12pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903 
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How many owners will be practicing their drifting skills on the local Morrisons car park on snowy icy evenings...
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8th Dec 2011 10:23pm |
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| DefenderOfTheEarth Member Since: 09 Nov 2010 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1304
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Morrisons?!
I say old chap, we don't take our Land Rover to such peasant hangouts... 
Mind you, the M&S car park is a bit small... Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion. |
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8th Dec 2011 11:34pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903
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8th Dec 2011 11:41pm |
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| NinetyTD4 Member Since: 22 Apr 2011 Location: North Posts: 397  
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To decide between understeer or oversteer, the defenders steering would need a thing called direction power instead of suggestion question, which is what you usually transport as wish to the steering. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
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9th Dec 2011 3:25pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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you don't buy defenders to go fast anywhere that's what Lambo's are for |
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9th Dec 2011 7:14pm |
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| Mullen Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: West midlands Posts: 93
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I can't get my 90 to slide?! I usually crap myself and let off as it rolls to much!
I did come from a cooper S on coilovers though! |
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9th Dec 2011 7:25pm |
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| Lukey Boy Member Since: 10 Jun 2011 Location: Norwich Posts: 122
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you don't buy defenders to go fast anywhere
that's what Lambo's are for [/quote]
Quite agree bpman, Defenders are not for fast driving, but occationally a corner tightens or is sharper than you expected, so a little knowledge gained might save me! Where's that lovely snow!
Fiddlesticks - messed up the quote 2008 110 XS CSW Stornoway Grey |
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9th Dec 2011 8:29pm |
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