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Naycrx



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Needle scaler
Good Afternoon

Is there such a thing as a needle scaler for a drill .... or something similar for doing the chassis ?

Cheers
Post #1055031 18th Dec 2024 5:45pm
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custom90



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Do you mean for removing rust / corrosion etc? If so, I think there is but normally air powered I think.

Mechanical it’s normally wire brush etc, nylon paint discs can be good too but won’t get everywhere.

Obviously PPE is a good idea with that. No Guts, No Glory.
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blackwolf



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Hilti makes an electric needle-scaler which is an excellent tool but I don't know.of any others. The Hilti is expensive (£500 for the needle head alone, plus the £1200 cost of a compatible hammer), https://www.hilti.co.uk/c/CLS_POWER_TOOLS_...-kits-tabs

If you go down the air route I recommend Trelawney scalers since they are much quieter and lower vibration than any other I've used (which is many over the years) - vibration white-finger can be a real and life-changing problem with tools of this type. https://trelawnydirect.com/needle-chisel-scalers.html

Hiring might be a cost effective option.
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julian



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Cheap air ones are available for not a lot at all.

But, of course, you then need an air compressor.
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blackwolf



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Needle scalers (at least those large enough to be worth bothering with) tend to use quite a lot of air continuously. You need a reasonably large compressor to run one.

There is it seems an Italian firm that makes needle scaler attachments for SDS drills: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156362567629?_s...R76cu7j7ZA
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custom90



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I’ve seen them used before for military vehicle / tank resto before, ideal for getting in corners or over hot rivets and things like that, even steam machines, locos etc with old paint. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1055068 18th Dec 2024 9:22pm
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Naycrx



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Yes we had the Defender waxoyl over a year ago .... but i have decided to start do small sections at a time on the chassis complete sand down Kurust - Zinc Prime and dinitrol - i have done a few parts - and really happy with the finish - I have ordered a Twisted wire brush and a normal one for the drill -

Feel I have started a Huge task But doing it in stages seems ok
Post #1055079 18th Dec 2024 10:40pm
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34064



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How much do you hate your Neighbours? They are loud but very good at what they do they will also find any weak spots on your chassis. Havent seen electric ones but that SDS attachment one looks ok probably cheaper than buying a decent compressor to run an air one 110 Td5 Ex Utilities slowly converting into a pop top camper one day

Build thread:https://www.defender2.net/forum/post1024784.html#1024784
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julian



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Naycrx wrote:
Yes we had the Defender waxoyl over a year ago .... but i have decided to start do small sections at a time on the chassis complete sand down Kurust - Zinc Prime and dinitrol - i have done a few parts - and really happy with the finish - I have ordered a Twisted wire brush and a normal one for the drill -

Feel I have started a Huge task But doing it in stages seems ok


I don't know, but I suspect that using a needle scaler on anything other than ancient waxoil may end up in a horrible black gummy mess

It may be fine, but my suspicion is that it will not be

Before you burn too much of your life on it, be mindful that a lot of the corrosion comes from the inside face, and cleaning and painting the outside won't stop that.

Solvents would do the job, but, it would be so messy and the risk of burning up the vehical in the process would be greater than "zero".

But, again, a considerable amount of the damage is coming from the inside.
Post #1055138 19th Dec 2024 5:53pm
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MattBee



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The Hilti needle scaler fits onto any SDS that has a ‘chisel’ function.
You can find them second hand now and again on eBay but I’m generally wary of that as second hand Hilti is a bit like Landrover parts; invariably stolen.
That aside it is a very good tool but very noisy!
Post #1055186 20th Dec 2024 8:13am
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