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billy2shots

Member Since: 23 Oct 2024
Location: England
Posts: 18

Changing mind over 110 to 90

I know we all have different wants and needs so this question is all relative.
I will outline my position and would love some feedback from others to help me decide.

Currently got an order in (Feb/March build) for

110 D350 X dynamic.

Starting to seriously consider a V8 90. For the same / a little less money than my new order, that would get me an 18 month/2 year car with sub 15k miles. I would need to pay VED on the second hand car and later, purchase an extended warranty to make those choices comparable. So let's say the cost is the same.

So new for second hand is the first variable.
The next factor is the obviously the practicality.

Current car is an EV Ioniq5. Big family car, cheap as chips to run. Mrs has a tiny city car.
I'm trying to convince myself that selling the city car and Mrs having the Ioniq5, leaves us pretty much as we are (a little more on running costs but practical wise).

I've got a 12 and 14 year old. There's no getting around it, I taxi them places 3 or 4 times a week. They are young fit and agile, no boosters or baby seats, prams or kids junk.

We do want to take the car into the Alps regularly in spring/ summer. We travel light but need 3 travel cases (10kg and less). Think plane carry on

In my head this makes sense.
Obviously like a lot of female partners, the V8 means little to the Mrs and she can't get her head around paying the same for less. i.e second hand and smaller.

I do 8k miles a year and regular 9 miles and under journeys (dpf!!)

The 110 V8 is to much of a financial stretch.

3rd Nov 2024 12:41pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2702

Do you really need the V8? The 3.0 diesel is all the engine you'll ever need and will do close to twice the MPG.

3rd Nov 2024 5:24pm

Moo

Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
Location: UK
Posts: 1335

Stick to the 110. The boot is small anyway, the 90 non existent. If you’re planning trips you will want a 110. Also, the kids and front seat passenger will get fed up with access.

Also, in real world driving, you’ll not use the V8 as much as you think, nice as it is. You’ll also be surprised by the diesels performance!

Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.

3rd Nov 2024 5:35pm

Jerry

Member Since: 13 Nov 2015
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 193

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Adventure Phoenix Orange

I would stick with a 110 until the kids have left home. Then get a 90.

I prefer petrol now that diesels have the dpf etc, but If you are stuck with diesel then just do some long runs every few weeks.

Personally I like the tonka look of the 90. Less so the 110.

Not sure if that helps! A nice choice anyway!

3rd Nov 2024 6:17pm

H1Tad

Member Since: 20 Jul 2024
Location: Maine
Posts: 109

Haven't driven a Diesel Defender (we don't get them over here) but my P400 110 is plenty quick. Cruises at 100mph on the highway no problem even with a bunch of nonsense bolted to the body.

The 110 is so small as it is, I couldn't imagine trying to shove my belongings into a 90 honestly. I've got a FJ Cruiser that has the clamshell doors on the side - and one of the reasons why we ended up with the 110 is because the backseats of the FJ are basically worthless because getting in and out is such a huge pain in the backside. 2022 Defender 110 SE P400 Tasman Blue Expedition and Cold weather package
2003 Hummer H1 P400 Firehouse Red
2008 Toyota FJ Cruiser

3rd Nov 2024 7:18pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3383

I’m biased towards the 90, I’m on my 3rd. I’ve also had a 110, but prefer the 90.

The 90 is pretty spacious in the back seats once in, I do carry passengers in the back frequently. The boot though can be an issue if you want to load it up for holidays, it’s fine for day to day use but is useless for anything more. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

3rd Nov 2024 8:51pm

Munchie

Member Since: 30 Oct 2024
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2

I think the v8 prices will hold firm as the Octa version is serious money. I have the same v8 in my Ftype and it’s a mega engine and the noise is simply fantastic, tuned easily to 600hp and 586lbs torque.

3rd Nov 2024 9:21pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2702

"but If you are stuck with diesel then just do some long runs every few weeks"

You don't need to with the 3.0 diesel, it's been designed around the DPF and there's no issues been reported even when the vehicle is only used for short journeys.

l've not read of a single DPF issue on the 3.0

3rd Nov 2024 11:22pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2702

Munchie wrote:
I think the v8 prices will hold firm as the Octa version is serious money. I have the same v8 in my Ftype and it’s a mega engine and the noise is simply fantastic, tuned easily to 600hp and 586lbs torque.

l would argue as to the point of 600bhp in a Defender.
What would you actually do with it?

3rd Nov 2024 11:24pm

billy2shots

Member Since: 23 Oct 2024
Location: England
Posts: 18

Some good points being made. Appreciate the input.

4th Nov 2024 7:00am

Munchie

Member Since: 30 Oct 2024
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2

lightning wrote:
Munchie wrote:
I think the v8 prices will hold firm as the Octa version is serious money. I have the same v8 in my Ftype and it’s a mega engine and the noise is simply fantastic, tuned easily to 600hp and 586lbs torque.

l would argue as to the point of 600bhp in a Defender.
What would you actually do with it?

You aren't the target market for the Octa and thats fine but there will be plenty who are, .its about choice

The Octa has over 600 hp the G wagon amg has 577hp, And uf yiu have the old V8 but can get close to Octa performance and you fancied it then why not doesn't mean it handles like a sports car.

4th Nov 2024 7:32am

BrickBox

Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
Posts: 801

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver

Personally, if you can afford the V8, get it

It won’t be much longer until those kind of engines are dropped for good. You won’t loose much money even if you only keep it a year or so. Tick it off the list. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.

4th Nov 2024 7:32am

eno

Member Since: 15 Apr 2024
Location: Qld
Posts: 24

A 90 V8 will have full electric seats. And the passenger seat has no manual override. It is painfully slow to move to allow rear seat passengers in and out with any regularity. They will complain quickly, especially if they are standing in the rain waiting for the seat to move.

4th Nov 2024 7:45am

billy2shots

Member Since: 23 Oct 2024
Location: England
Posts: 18

When I saw the manual passenger seat , I thought it wasn't bad. Then I realised the higher spec cars get electric both sides.

4th Nov 2024 9:38am

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3383

24MY onward have manual passenger seat. My current HSE has 14 way electric seats but none for the passenger. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

4th Nov 2024 11:09am

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